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Orange Skidmark Offers to Buy Out All Federal Employees

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Norcaligator, Jan 29, 2025 at 12:17 AM.

  1. G8trGr8t

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    I guess I was referring to my brother who was retired military so he has insurance covered.

    jsut out of curiosity. what is appx "full premium" for 55 - 60 year old male retired from federal system for middle of road ppo plan
     
  2. hhpgator

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    Age wouldn’t be a factor as it is a group plan. The insurance rates across the country for federal employees differ by area. It is published data.

    Healthcare : Compare 2025 Plans - OPM.gov
     
  3. hhpgator

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    Military is definitely different than civilian. They get VA and Tri-care coverage. My dad retired from the USAF as a MsSgt and hardly ever had to pay for care. Between Tri-Care and Medicare, his doctor appointments were covered and he picked up his meds on base.
     
  4. vaxcardinal

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    Exactly. When I retire from the government, that’s the route I will take since I’m not ready to retire from working
     
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  5. vaxcardinal

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    Government retirees pay the same premium as they do while working for the government. Only difference is in retirement they are billed on a monthly basis rather than biweekly while employed
     
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  6. hhpgator

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    That would be news to me, but if true I stand corrected.
     
  7. vaxcardinal

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    I’ve done lots of research since I’ve been eligible to retire from the government for a while. Just waiting for the right contractor job before pulling the plug.
     
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  8. USAFColonel

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    TriCare is not "free". Military retirees pay a monthly fee, plus if you are seen outside of a Military Treatment facility (on-base hospital), you pay a co-pay. Prescriptions are free if you get them through the miliary pharmacy, otherwise you pay a co-pay. Having said all that, though, TriCare is still a GREAT healthcare insurance plan.
     
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  9. hhpgator

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    If you have the link, I’d love to see it. Congratulations on near retirement.
     
  10. vaxcardinal

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  11. hhpgator

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    I know he used the military pharmacy and I don’t believe I said Tri-Care was free, did I? When I said he paid next to nothing for healthcare, I was referring to co-pays, testing, medical equipment, and meds. My mistake if that was misunderstood. Mom hated the military, but she sure loved the retirement benefits! Thank you for your service Colonel. The glad in my avatar is from his retirement. He is sadly now interred in a National Cemetery.
     
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  13. cron78

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    Even if most aren’t bonafide bureaucrats as you define it, an awful lot of them are carrying out policy and often at a rate of production that wouldn’t cut it in the private sector. Lots of them are slowing down gtrgrt’s (and my) permits, not answering phones on the premise that it is too time consuming (anecdotally know that many don’t answer the phone and only return calls for a few designated minutes a day), sitting in session after session of training that are to check bureaucratic boxes versus training needed to improve/increase skills, etc. During COVID, I personally had feds not come to their exterior door during regular hours when I saw them inside obviously ignoring my knocks. I had to leave an envelope of important documents leaning on their door and walk away.

    One fed for every 100+ citizens is too many considering how many of them duplicate state and municipal functions. A specific example, and one of the most notorious in my experience, is the Corps of Engineers regulatory permitting function. They are not inclined without political pressure to do their permitting reviews in a reasonable time frame. Another is the NEPA review required for every project using any federal dollars. Environmental review is holding up a grant project that covers one of my properties that has literally had two windows fall out while we have waited about a year for a fed review for properties that are fully developed and have no Env issues. Working for a municipality trying to expedite fed Env review for hurricane recovery I offered to contact all the appropriate Native American tribes as required but was told that is not acceptable even though the feds can’t get the complete review done in a timely (less than a year) manner. I think they didn’t want an “outsider” do their job better and faster than they could. Just my experience and opinion.
    Too many is the best I can do.
     
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  14. vaxcardinal

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    Pay cap is less than $200k
     
  15. cron78

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    National cemeteries are a federal function that I whole-heartedly support. A year ago we were highly impressed with the Tallahassee National Cemetery staff, the grounds are immaculate, and the TAFB honor guard did an awesome job for my father’s interment. Proud for my tax dollars to be applied there.
     
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  16. cron78

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    Agree, but that is what the ~approx symbol was for.
     
  17. vaxcardinal

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    But it goes to reason that most are not at the cap so a very small percentage.
     
  18. cron78

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    Can’t disagree with your reasoning, but can’t outright accept that are not more than I would prefer sucking on the govt teat. That’s said as someone that sucked on that big teat at the municipal level for one-fifth of my career.
     
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  19. hhpgator

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    My dad is in the same location, close to the flag poles to the left on the hill.
     
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  20. gator_jo

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    Did you really?

    Most employees feel like they provide good service for a fair wage. I'm sorry that you apparently don't feel that way.