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Orange Skidmark Offers to Buy Out All Federal Employees

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Norcaligator, Jan 29, 2025 at 12:17 AM.

  1. vaxcardinal

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    what percentage of federal employees do you think make ~$200k?
     
  2. hhpgator

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    Could you ask what you would like to know more specifically. They’re in my post. SSA employees many doctors, actuaries, mathematicians, economists, investment analysts, etc. Managing a multi trillion dollar portfolio is a huge task.
     
  3. hhpgator

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    Trump corporate bankruptcy filings were specifically to avoid paying the local contractors. It’s amazing how many blue collar workers he screwed in private industry and yet they love him.
     
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  4. vaxcardinal

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    My phone was blowing up last night with people sending me the article about the 'buyouts'...What an awesome deal. I can resign next friday and get paid my full salary for the next 8 months. And on top of that I can hire on as a government contractor and double dip. What an awesome day. Then back to reality as i read the fine print....i'm in the excluded group. Oh well. I'll just have to continue to protect everyone's freedoms (including some people I would prefer not to on here).
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

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    that doesn't help the reits his billionaire buddies have with massive downtown offices elsewhere around the country. if the US gubmnt sets a return to office policy, it makes it that much easier for others to try to follow

    personally, my job would be hard to do remotely, too much collaboration and back and forth with junior staff, still using big 24 x 36 printers to print things for final check. there are other engineering jobs that can easily be done remotely if the employee is well trained
     
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    "Deferred resignation is available to all full-time federal employees except for military personnel of the armed forces, employees of the U.S. Postal Service, those in positions related to immigration enforcement and national security, and those in other positions specifically excluded by your employing agency." So my question is whether or not SSA fits in one of these excluded categories.
     
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  7. G8trGr8t

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    the man never paid out a retainer in his life. even on ML. I know plumbing contractor that took that job at high price when nobody else wanted to bid on it. He never got the final 10%, even after completing a ridiculous punchlist. said the lawsuit wouldn't be worth the trouble.
     
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    Contracted doctors for the disability program is maybe a hundred and a rough guess is that the eight deputy level divisions have somewhere around 40-50 excepted service positions that would earn that much. SSA has 60K employees nationwide, so 150 or .25%. Each division likely has on the order of 12 directors, so another 100 or so that break the $180 mark. Altogether less than 1/2 a percent would be in the $180K+ category. Compare that to the insurance and investment industries and I think you will find that private industries are more top heavy.
     
  9. hhpgator

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    SSA isn’t excluded. The offer is open to that agency.
     
  10. vaxcardinal

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    Reason I ask is that the the top of the federal pay scale is under $200K so only a very small percentage of federal workers are making more than that
     
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    Did I miss something or does this apply to contractors too? They appx equal the number of fed workers now.

    Did you realize that the number of fed employees is relatively unchanged over the last 50 years while the population, number of laws, rules, regulations and even industries has went up significantly?

    Is government too big? Reflections on the size and composition of today’s federal government

    • The federal government’s workforce has remained largely unchanged in size for over 50 years, even as the U.S. population has grown by 68% and federal spending has quintupled, highlighting the critical role of technology and contractors in filling the gap.
    • Contractors now outnumber federal employees more than two to one, creating a “blended workforce” that raises pressing questions about accountability, efficiency, and the boundaries of “inherently governmental” functions.
     
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    I appreciate whatever it is you do to protect our freedoms. SSA also doesn’t use contractors outside of doctors that I’m aware of at the moment. No double dipping for that agency.
     
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    what a great deal for those federal contractors. more work for them, handed a workforce, and uncle will pay the employee plus the contractor markup now. I'm sure none of those contractors helped come up with this hair brained scheme
     
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    I believe SSA is in the 2.1M. In addition to the 1.3M active duty military, there are about 0.8M additional civilian military support personnel. Not sure if they are the civilian support hp mentioned.

    SSA is understaffed right now. I can’t get them to answer the phone so that I can start my SS draws. When I got through after days and days of trying, I got attitude from the worker when I asked him to run a couple quick checks for me on what my monthly draw would be if I started in my birth month versus six months later. He has the program or spreadsheet for me in front of him and I don’t have an easy way to make that calculation. I didn’t need a jerk whining to me, I needed reasonable customer service. Perhaps he was overworked due to understaffing, but perhaps I interrupted his watching a ball game while he was working from home…
     
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    we hire lots of contractors because we're not authorized to hire more government people. Been like that for decades.
     
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    I know, I was asking if they are included in the 'buyout' or are they part of the excluded group
     
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    Contractors cost tax payers far more than employees. Those sweet deals to companies that Congress has their hands in are meant to bolster their personal finances. You don’t become a millionaire by working as a career service employee. If people want the bloat of the government gone, expand the payroll and shrink the $5,000 hammer private sector sucking the tax teet.
     
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    That division was recalled to the office nearly a year ago. Only one division of SSA is still in a telework position.
     
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    understood, and the contractors cost more. borther went from USCG in DC to contractor in DC doing same job (with less work load and more "training" time per him) and got a 15% raise and gubmnt paid contractor even more per hour than that. retired gubmnt employees have healthcare so contractor saves there.
     
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    Government employees cover full premium in retirement though. No savings there. Actually, by leaving the retirees on the plans, it affords the government greater leverage in negotiating lower rates with the insurance companies. Again, the employee leads to greater savings over contractors. The more policies you bring to the table, the better your rate quotes. I used to solicit insurance companies for private companies.
     
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