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Operation Bye Bye Biden accomplished

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ThePlayer, Jul 18, 2024.

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  1. ETGator1

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    Well, at least you realize the lamestream media is the right arm of the Democratic Socialist Communist Party of America.
     
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  2. GCNumber7

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    Maybe, but she still gets to be the first female president. In a few decades kids won’t know the details, but they will know her name.
     
  3. tilly

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    This goes back to @OklahomaGator's post. He simply said Biden would not endorse her. That post was questioned due o its sources, but your source literally says nothing to contradict that.

    No one is arguing that it will likely be Kamala. We were discussing if the president would endorse her.
     
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  4. mrhansduck

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    Doubt it would ever happen but heard someone ask if Harris were nominated whether she could, from a constitutional perspective, select Barack Obama as her VP.
     
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  5. gator_lawyer

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    And I'm saying that's not believable. There's no way Biden isn't endorsing her if she's the person the party is picking. (There are other claims made by the Newsmax guy that haven't withstood scrutiny either.)
     
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  6. GatorBen

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    Just what we need right now to unite our country, a Constitutional crisis that directly affects the composition of one of the major party tickets, over the entirely unsettled question of how the 12th Amendment, 22nd Amendment, and Article II eligibility clause interplay with one another!
     
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  7. mrhansduck

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    Fascinating times we live in.
     
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    That’s true. But thank goodness we have a Supreme Court that we, as a Nation, have full confidence to ensure the constitutional crisis is resolved according to law, order and precedent.
     
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  9. BLING

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    Ok Lou Dobbs.:emoji_ok_hand:
     
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  10. tilly

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    Fair enough. I still feel this leaves much unanswered and assumes too much.

    The delegates are not hers even if he endorses her. There seems to be some concerns about her on the inside. How do we know no one will push for delegates to consider other options.
     
  11. gator_lawyer

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    If party leadership, including Biden, back her, the delegates will fall in line.
     
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  12. GatorBen

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    This one would be controversial with any Supreme Court composition you could imagine, in large part because there is no precedent construing the 22nd Amendment.

    The closest the Supreme Court has gotten to interpreting it is dicta in U.S. Term Limits v. Thornton saying that it “imposed a limit on the number of terms that the President may serve.” Other than that, there’s a random Ninth Circuit case analogizing California’s legislative term limits to it and saying that it clearly imposes a lifetime ban on the office of the presidency, a couple district court cases describing it as imposing term limits, and a California district court refusing to rule on Obama’s citizenship and eligibility to hold the office of the presidency because the question is moot since he is barred by the 22nd Amendment from ever holding the office of the presidency in the future anyways.
     
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  13. gator_lawyer

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    If we're being faithful textualists, I don't believe it prevents a VP who served two terms as President from serving the remainder of the President's term if the President leaves office. The text says:
    "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once."
     
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  14. WarDamnGator

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    Let’s be real here, the only factor that SCOTUS would decide this on is if Obama tried to be VP 2024, or if Trump won then tried to be VP in 2028.
     
  15. tilly

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    No chance Kamala pick's O.
    Her legacy would always read "needed Obama to win". No chance she risks that historical footnote.

    Its a smart play for the Dems. Heck if its legal, she could step down 5 minutes after being sworn in. But no chance she wants any part of that.

    Zero.
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    Biden and his handlers reportedly defiant as ever. And if Biden can defeat Trump hiding in his basement, who’s to say he can’t stage a miraculous comeback while brain dead ?
     
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    Don't forget the cackling. Pubs have a major aversion to women who laugh.
     
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    You know and I know you meant to say anyone who cackles at inappropriate moments.
     
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  19. gatordavisl

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    In an interview the other day, Biden stated that Harris would be an excellent prez. If he drops out, he will endorse her.
     
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  20. gator_lawyer

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    Of course she's not picking Obama. I doubt he wants the job. Man is living the life.
     
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