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One Major Problem with NIL

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by doublewhammy, Dec 8, 2023.

  1. Gatorrick22

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    This sounds defeatist to me. How do we know what other conferences want or don't want if we don't talk with them about the portal problem?
     
  2. Wanne15

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    Employees under contract would fix that very quick but the schools want to keep all the money
     
  3. Gatorrick22

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    No, no, no... that would be a whole other can or worms and the SCOTUS never said that would be legal.
     
  4. Wanne15

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    of course it’s legal
     
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  5. wyldcrocodyl

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    I do not know what you mean by "defeatist". Even within our conference, do you think say Alabama and Texas are going to agree to the same limitations as Vandy or Arkansas?
     
  6. Wanne15

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    Big football makes the rules and Vandy cashes the checks. They don’t care.
     
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  7. Crusher

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    Because its a Catch-22 and the NCAA is trying to walk the razor's edge to not make them employees. Direct "NIL" contracts with Colleges would surely be skewered by the DOL as the pretense for what they really are: pay for play under the total direction of the University...ie: employees.
     
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  8. paidinfull

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    Pretty sure they don’t.

    I do think this particular issue is blown out of proportion though. Kids are rarely just cut and thrown to the curb outside of disciplinary issues. Walkon’s that earn scholarships often don’t have them renewed, but that’s kind of part of the deal going in, and they should know that. Scholarship athletes rarely, if ever, have their scholarships revoked for on field performance. Exit interviews are conducted. They may be told their best option is to explore other opportunities, but, at least at UF, if they really want to stay here even knowing they won’t play, we’ll generally find a way to keep them here. They can be put on hardship scholarships and still get their school taken care of and continue to be involved with the team if that’s what they want. Most of them actually want to play, and choose to leave when they’re told they’re not going to see the field.
     
  9. Crusher

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    Is this still true?

    If so, UF is operating like the college football dinosaurs are still roaming the earth.
     
  10. paidinfull

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    Are you going to give them all four year contracts? That’s going to make it hard to stay under the 85 scholarship limit.
     
  11. Crusher

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    It could, but it would also open up a different big ole Pandora's box...specifically workman's comp and most likely make booster "donations" and earnings taxable.
     
  12. tegator80

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    Unionized? Yes you will. Because it will be a league and fairness will be THE goal. And the reason why is because that is the evolution to a system that both parties have agreed. We are NOT talking about a silly university system.
     
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  13. Wanne15

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    NFL already has all that crap worked out to perfection. I don’t watch nfl much anymore but we come this far , might as well be nfl lite. It’s better than this by a longshot.
     
  14. Wanne15

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    Besides, boosters could just give to the school and the 100 mil football produces could just stay on the side of the ledger.
     
  15. stirtloe

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    What I wonder is if these deals are year-to-year. Are they renegotiated every year, and if not, is that why kids just put their names in the portal? Sort of like coaches whose agents float their names for every open job just to get a raise?
     
  16. paidinfull

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    It’s not public information. The NiL entity and the athlete can structure the deals however they want. One time event, a yearly deal, multi year deal. If you want to a player to do a one time birthday party for your kid, you can do that. If you want to pay him to do an event once a month for a year, you can do that too. Once a week for four years, whatever you work out.
     
  17. 96Gatorcise

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    Can't speak to all deals but when you see a player gets a car, they are one year lease deals.
     
  18. partdopy

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    I think NIL is a great thing for college athletics as it encourages student athletes to excel at their college of choice so they can make money off of advertising and merchandise like other athletes. Think of the advertising and merchandise deals a very successful 4 year starter could have at UF, for example, over their career.

    What we have now is not NIL. It is paying kids to play. That's what is going to transform NCAAF into a product that sucks. It's no longer really about being good at football, it's about just buying the best athletes. That's not fun, it's gambling.

    Anyone can win at any activity if they simply have more money and there are no rules about what you can buy to get an advantage. That's not an athletic or strategy competition. It's a money competition. Fun!
     
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  19. Skink

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    Sadly, the US Government really has no business meddling in things like college sports. They should really be focusing their time on more important things, like securing our border, healthcare, violent crime, and restoring our national economy and manufacturing capabilities, just to name a few
     
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  20. Claygator

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    I don't know about what UF employees see, but third party contracts with UF are clearly discoverable under sunshine laws.