Omar Payne, Darris, Locke and others. . .

To me it is all about why did they transfer. AN seems to have found a better fit to finish his college career and that is fine. I don't think his game has much in common with the current version of the NBA.

Payne seems to have never really listened to the coaches on what is holding him back. Methinks he is still not listening.

 

Interesting that AN was constantly looking to go pro his first two years. Taking time away for NBA scout evaluation, taking time away to play with Canadian National team, and never putting in the time bonding and practicing with his UF team. Now he has spent 2 years at Gonzaga and seems to have matured.

 

Late to the conversation but whatever shooting percentages aside and for all his reputation as a shooter, Locke never seemed to hit the open shot at key points in a game. It was o e of the more frustrating aspects of our game last year. We could be on the cusp of stretching a lead or closing a gap and we could rarely hit an open 3, many times Locke being the shooter.

 

i think he's benefited from having more talented players around him, as well as a better coach (fyi, im one of the mike white supporters, but just being honest).

it just was a better situation for him and his style of game. really happy for the kid. seems like a good person with a solid family background.

 

AN is a pure pass-first PG but with decent shooting %’s. That should work in any system really. Seemed like a perfect Billy D PG, kind of similar in body type and style to Nick Calathes. Under White, it always felt like he played slow here for whatever reason where he would excel more if fast break tempo were pushed more. Maybe playing in a faster system is good for him, but his individual stats were actually DOWN slightly last year and he seems to be off to a somewhat quiet start this year too. Albeit obviously on a higher ranked team than we have been lately.

 

sheer numbers were down, but his offensive efficiency made significant jumps. from his field goal percentage to his assist-to-turnover ratio.

 

Sounds like they got what they wanted. Omar started but was still Omar. Locke is the centerpiece of the offense but you lost and aren’t showing any PG ability.

Still wish Omar had a different attitude and stayed. Could be something if he doesn’t get in his own way.

 

I think Payne transferring was addition by subtraction. Doubt he will ever develop into a capable offensive threat.

 

I think all those guys are exactly where they need to be….not here.

 

Glover scored 24 points last night against a good San Francisco team. Payne looked pretty good last night against Marquette. He is finally starting to develop. He would have been the backup center for us. Nembhard looked tremendous against Texas. I expect him to play in the NBA next year. These guys are all better off for having transferred.

 

I think Payne is the only one who maybe should’ve stuck around. 15 minutes & 5 ppg to start the year at Illinois is comparable to what he got here and set to drop, possibly sharply, with Cockburn returning from suspension. Although I also thought White could’ve had his back a little more after the elbow on Fulkerson and he was blindsided by Cockburn’s late decision to return

 

Payne’s elbow on Fullerton was not his first dirty play.

 

I still personally think that publicly you back your guy up and, if not suspended, let him play in the next game. Give him an ass chewing and punishment behind closed doors

 

Imagine the Michigan, Penn State, Virginia Tech, etc. boards' threads tracking the guys that transferred here!

 

Samford, led by Ques Glover’s 16 points and 9 assists, upset Oregon State last night. Ques appears to be emerging as Samford’s best player. He had 24 points in the previous game against unbeaten San Francisco.

 

That's legit wonderful news. I haven't agreed with your take on him and the others vis a vis CMW. But I kind of like the kid and hope he becomes one of those college basketball jewels, and you get some measure of validation on your points.