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Ocoee Election Massacre

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by philnotfil, Nov 2, 2022.

  1. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    By sheer coincidence, I get an email on this from the local library. Bet they get targeted by some RW group, just based on the book description

    LibraryAware
     
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  2. mrhansduck

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    I also think tv shows and movies have played a role (maybe both good and bad but probably more positive on the whole). Bill Cosby didn't turn out well personally, but that show was pretty influential maybe the way that Will and Grace was for making gay people more relatable to the majority. Even with that, I think one of the reasons that the country shifted so fast on same sex marriage was because once so many came out of the closet, lots of people realized they had friends or family that were gay and softened their views at the least. On the other hand, race is a little trickier IMO because at least in many/most parts of the country, we are still often segregated in communities and places of worship and don't have those personal interactions.
     
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  3. swampbabe

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    All middle schoolers in Brevard County will be making a field trip to the Moore Cultural Center as part of our social studies curriculum to learn about Harry and Harriette Moore (our courthouse is named after them) and predictably the Moms for Liberty folks ain't happy.

    https://www.harryharriettemoore.org/

    I will disagree with your analogy about a kid's missteps 50 years later. Not close to the same thing. We're not talking about an individual kid but society as a whole. We need to do better.
     
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  4. tilly

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    But we are doing better. We no longer massacre groups of people over such things.

    Again, 8f school shootings are not a thing 100 years from now will/should they all still be in the history books as reminders?

    Not answering. I'm asking.
     
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  5. Orange_and_Bluke

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    While I agree with you here. I don’t know that anybody is whitewashing our history. I’m sure all students know about our past with slavery and Jim Crow. Ever heard of the entire month of February? My kids come home from govt school talking about black history well into March.
     
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  6. dangolegators

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    I guess Germans shouldn't be taught about nazis either. Why be reminded of such unpleasantness?
     
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  7. tampagtr

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    BTW, if you ever want to be called a “groomer”, teaching homoeroticism, just read verbatim US Soldiers’ descriptions of Seminole leader Osceola and his shirtless build and grace. I was just listening to a book on the Everglades and Wow! That’s all I will say
     
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  8. defensewinschampionships

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    "Don't make me repeat myself"
    -History

    That's why we teach it.
     
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  9. swampbabe

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    No, we just try to make sure that they can't vote.
     
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  10. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Nobody said we shouldn’t teach it. It’s already being taught. Everyone knows this. What are you talking about?
    The debate seems to be about a line where it’s bludgeoned a wound that may not need reopened.
    Common sense is challenging.
     
  11. rivergator

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    It is hard to know exactly how much time is spent in history class focusing on the crappy things Americans have done to other Americans. You obviously have to have a certain amount because everything that's happened has played a role in who we are today and people have to know what our various groups of people have gone through.
    But it can't be all "damn, we really suck ..."
     
  12. dangolegators

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    That must really piss you off.
     
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  13. dangolegators

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    Really? Everyone knows about the Ocoee massacre because it's already being taught? Did you already know about it?
     
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  14. ursidman

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    I’m sure we all look forward to including events at Columbine, Parkland, Sandy Hook, Uvalde etc into lessons on The Era of school shootings or the The Period when we believed taking weapons from deeply disturbed people violated their civil rights and don’t have to learn the granular detail about individual events.
     
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  15. rivergator

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    No, it wasn't being taught.
     
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  16. G8tas

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    I didn't learn about Jim Crow in school. In US History once we finished learning about WWII the year was over
     
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  17. mrhansduck

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    Anecdotal, but when I was in school, history was definitely whitewashed - everything from our interaction with Native Americans to the Civil War. Maybe that changed at some point, but I'm not that old.
     
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  18. PITBOSS

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    Well per your earlier post.


     
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  19. Rocinante

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    Don’t worry; DeSantis is making sure your kids and grandkids don’t know history any better. Rosewood was just people letting off steam. No reason to educate anyone about facts when rainbows and unicorns are so much nicer.
     
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  20. tilly

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    Cliches dont answer my question.

    You can literally say that about every bad event ever.

    Some of you really dont want to have honest discussions about these things.

    I am asking where the line is on something? 50 years? 100 years? Once it stops happening?

    You dont think that is a valid conversation to have?