No wonder we lost to Vandy

Yeah they did. If you read the ruling, the SC basically told them the way they have been operating was wrong and if more lawsuits come in front of them the NCAA will lose.

NCAA v. Alston.

 

He threw for 400 yds and his only INT was a fluke deflection and more the fault of the WR. AR did not fumble a punt into the EZ or commit numerous penalties erasing 3rd down stops.

 

I'm so happy that I've been a Gator for over sixty years because I remember the days when players gave it their all for the Orange & Blue. Nowadays many players are only in it for the green and not for the love of the game, their teammates or their university. Damn the no-fun-league, agents and sports commentators who create this selfishness in the players.

 

I agree we were not mentally ready for Vandy, but I question the premise of the thread.
Just 7 days prior to the Vandy debacle, we curb-stomped South Carolina 38-6.
Our D played well, our offense played well, our special teams didn't do well, but it didn't matter.

So in just 7 days we went from destroying the current #20 team in the nation to being 1/2 way out the door vs Vandy?? That doesn't make sense, unless something happened in those 7 days.

I think we just took Vandy lightly, and the cold 11am start didn't help.
Then it all went down hill. We had some bad calls and bad luck as well.

 

No The NCAA created this mess by restricting the player's ability to make money outside of football.

 

@Crusher
Read the link I put in post 41. It written by the Harvard Law Review.
It tells why the NCAA through in the towel. It basically says the SC told the NCAA that they would lose any further cases because they are violating antitrust laws.

The only reason pay for play wasn't decided in Alston was because the players didn't sue for it or the court would have ruled in their favor as well.

 

It would be interesting to see a count of Supreme court case predictions that the HLR got wrong. I bet there are a few.

I stand by my prior response that the SC did not directly address transfer rules...the NCAA freely made that choice in their latest spasm of incompetence. Whether that would be litigated further if tightened now would be anyone's guess. My guess is yes in our incredibly litigious society (and now that someone's Ox might get gored). How the Supreme Court would rule on a case of that nature is speculation.

 

Count yourself as lucky - he only gave you a 200% disagree. I got a 1000% disagree!

 

That's going on right now according to Beamer from USCe (I think).

 

It happened last year with that Pitt WR...big money NIL bought him from Pitt to go to LA.

 

I'm not crying anything. It's becoming a product I don't enjoy as much as I enjoyed the prior product.

Personally I think a development league or just allowing players to go pro right out of HS would have been far better than making ncaaf into NFL-lite but I don't have any say on that. I have no issues with the players making decisions that are in their best interest.

I'm not going anywhere, I just won't be as devoted of a fan of professional athletes that are here for a season because we paid them as I was of our student athletes. UF played a large part of my life, I grew up sneaking into games as a kid who couldn't afford to go, graduated with my BS from Warrington COB and spent 10+ years working in UFs IT unit. I'll still wear my gator hat and old logo sweatshirt to support the school, just stating that our football program and ncaaf as a whole has really lost it's character and as a result most of my ability to care. I still want the program to succeed as it brings success to the university, it's just not the same.

Anyways, this is an online forum, as good of a place to complain as any. If you don't like my complaints you can ignore me, no reason to talk down to me like I'm some selfish moron who hates kids making their lives better.

 

You should have read what I deleted

Seriously though I reply knowing others are reading along (and posting). Like an argument in a crowded bar.

I like your posts often here (and I saw Wes play)… some things just trigger a bit more passionate response.

75%~90% of these guys will never play in the NFL. Most have played this game since 5-6. They want to play.

Are non starters headed for the portal to blame for the Vandy loss? 95% of those guys could not get on the field.

Gators Postseason Transfer Tracker: Yousef Mugharbil, Jalen Lee Entering Portal | Sports Illustrated Florida Gators News, Analysis and More

Which guys’ departures hurt?

Poor coaching was a huge reason for the loss. Not Josh Braun, Macmillan or Wilcoxson

 

I guess you misssed a lot of that game
The D was bad.
We gave them a TD on a punt due to a player who doesn’t return punts being back there, none of that happened when AR was on the field.

 

The program has been in a decline for several years. This was not big secret to the current rooster. The missteps at the beginning of the season (by the coaches and the players) and at the end of the season opened the road to more turnover. Napier needs to bring in a good recruiting class and have at lest a 7 and 5 year to keep his job.

 

The Vandy game was a typical game of the lesser team making the most of every opportunity it had. UF outgained Vandy 445 yards to 283. Both teams had 2 turnovers. If you didn't know who the teams were but you knew one team outgained the other by 150 yards and turnovers were equal, you would think the team with another 150 yards of offense would win 9 out of 10 times. Sometimes the team it doesn't seem should win ends up winning.

 

It will be interesting to see if the one year scholarships start to include language about not playing for another team during that year.

 

And they almost always had a linebacker watching for the QB run (and sometimes a safety). AR didn't run because the defense was ready for it. He generally made the right run/pass choice.

They sold out to stop the run, and gave up 400 yards passing. AR played a good game. A special teams mistake was the ball game. Without that special teams touchdown for Vandy, we don't go for two and kick an extra point for the win.

 

Don't sweat it dude. There are far more of us than them and college football - as we knew it - is dead. I love the line about "better product on the field." How utterly laughable. So, less coaching, less commitment and less practice = "better product on the field"? Yeah. Sure. . . . Utterly laughable.

 

Similar to non-compete clauses. Can't play for a team in the same conference/state perhaps.