No Sign of a Red Wave; Plenty of Signs of a Dobbs Wave

And Alabama under Saban is definitely done, will never be in the playoffs again

 

Just answer the question. Why is murder wrong? After all, Christians believe murder is wrong because of their religion right? So why is imposing that viewpoint through law okay, but not imposing anti-abortion viewpoints?

 

Because abortion isn’t murder. Anything else you need help understanding?

 

Abortion is not murder. You clearly don’t understand what murder is. Come back to me when you have researched and understand what it means.

 

“Murder is wrong because abortion isn’t murder.”

Wow, excellent reasoning there.

 

I didn’t say it was for purposes of this discussion.

You’re dodging because you don’t like where this conversation is going. That’s fine, you don’t have to answer the question, but we don’t have to take you slandering the pro-life movement as pathetically as you just did.

 

Christian Taliban. Sharia law. Simple.

 

Secular Cult. Secular imposition. War on organized religion continues. Simple.

 

I know. The C-Tal are victims. They need a protector. Like Trump or Desantis, because they can’t fend for themselves.

 

oh yeah? Look forward to a lot more dumping on the pro life movement (take note of the election results). I’m personally also going to dump all over the GOP abd Trump. I hear Parler or Truth Social is a safe spot for the MAGA elk though. Feel free to object but it’s not going to stop.

 

Actually unborn children are victims. And they kind of do need a protector from people like you and politicians who share your viewpoint.

 

Boo hoo

 

Nah, no worries. Elon Musk took over Twitter. If you don't like that, build your own platform. Don't worry though, you likely won't have to. He's taking it in a "less censorship" direction unlike his predecessors.

 

I wouldn't call it a war, but it's a an effort against organized religion and its attempts to legislate its own morality onto others. No one is waging "war" on religion. Believe what you want and attend what services you want. No one cares. Just stop playing victim and leave everyone else alone. You'll find more acceptance and maybe even grow your congregation if you do.

 

Republicans accused of being "Christian Taliban:" You're lying about us, you're slandering us, and you're pathetic for doing so.

Democrats accused of being a "Secular Cult" out to destroy organized religion: Cry about it.

 

For the record I have always said early term.

Early term fetuses have no consciousness. No feeling. No pain. I’m not sure how you are protecting them.

I suppose those who believe women who have sex out of marriage should be stoned, due to religious belief, are victims too, because secular liberals oppose them?

 

People these days generally have it backwards.

They want and expect "modern" American cultural standards, which really means socially secular liberal standards, to dictate religious moral standards. When the reality is that if you want to be a part of a church, it should really be the other way around.

Everyone wants to legislate their own morality onto others. Democrats these days just frequently like to use the fact that the person they are arguing against is religious as some trump card in the argument when that person could justify their position with or without religion.

 

Why is drawing the line at consciousness the only reasonable position to you?

No, those people are not victims. It turns out both sides have zealots and the fact that you're basically calling anyone who disagrees with you, someone who doesn't draw the line exactly where you do either Christian Taliban or someone who supports murdering children... that kind of suggests that you are one of those zealots.

 

I'd say the attempts at taking freedoms and choices away is what is used in arguments against religion. Not the church's morals on their face, but the desire to impose those morals at the cost of individual liberties.

 

You have it backwards. If you are secular, and abortion is legal, what is there to stop you from keeping from bringing the child to term? But if you are religious, and ban all abortions, you are restricting those from their freedoms and to act according to their beliefs. Our standards shouldn't be dictated by the religious, and force the non-religious to conform to them. If you want to be part of a church and abide by all church rules, so be it. Don't force me to do the same, please.