No Red Wave

There's no bench of those people here. Nikki Fried was the only Dem who held a state office and lost to Crist. They are probably better served finding outsidery type figures, or like convincing John Morgan to run for something as an independent and not fielding a candidate.

 

Wow. 28?! need to compare that to other elections to benchmark, but that is a big swing.

 

That red wave was more like a tiny tornado that my son had to make for a science project this year.

 

Yeah I didn’t get the retread crist as the nom. Altough desantis is very formidable

 

Which pretty much explains Florida too.

 

you did see the HRC campaign didn't you? Dems in general suck at messaging and ground game

 

Kari Lake for one. She's at least as nuts as Trump is and on the election day thread you said 'I really like this lady' about her. And the half of the Republicans running who are election deniers. You support most if not all of them.

 

How could I support her from Florida. You really stuck your neck out to take a shot at me. But you missed by about 10 states. Hug?

 

Florida has become a sad and drastic outlier. With the gerrymandering, midwestern retiree waves, and the stronghold of Cuban Americans inexplicably lockstep voting 100% against their own self-interest, it’s probably not even possible to overcome an authoritarian weakman like DeathSantis controlling all the reins of government in the state.

 

You obviously don’t know muck about Wall Street.

sSee Ken Griffey

What I don’t get in Florida politics is why big city dem mayors don’t run for state wide office. Take for example Bob Buckhorn. Incredibly popular. You’d think he’d be a shoe in for Governor or Senate. It’s either something structural or if they have skeletons in their closet.

 

Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez deserve a lot the credit for unintentionally flipping Miami-Dade to the the Republican Party and ensuring that the Republicans have a lock on Florida even more so than did Ron DeSantis. While Bernie and AOC may have Denmark and the other Scandinavian countries in mind when they refer to themselves as "Democratic socialists" what comes to mind among Hispanic voters in South Florida when they hear the word "socialist" are the Cuba of Fidel Castro, the Venezuela of Hugo Chavez and the Nicaragua of Daniel Ortega, and the Republican Party to its credit did an excellent job of capitalizing on that perception through an excellent ground game.

 

repubs not doing as expected. But they’ll control the house and walker will be fav’ed in the runoff. So they could control senate by a seat.


What Happens If Georgia’s Senate Race Goes To A Runoff — Again?

 

Spit my coffee out on this one. So funny, and perfect.

 

Gerrymandering? What the hell are you talking about? Dude Ron won by 20 points. You could draw it up any way you like and it wouldn’t change the facts that escape you.
GTFO.

 

The red wave turned out to be just a little light spotting.

The Dems are likely going to finish with the best midterm performance of any party holding the White House in American history.

All in spite of the QOP-driven media doing nothing but hammering inflation and gas prices (both of which are global, and have nothing to do with US policies), and hammering the QOP voter suppression polls, while ignoring what this election was actually about (preserving democracy and reproductive rights).

This election was a tacit repudiation of MAGA nutjob candidates, clearly underscoring that republicans love Trump, but won’t fall for the same shtick from someone who NBC didn’t prop up for years on reality TV as a fake billionaire.

It’s still up in the air over whether Dems keep control of the House, and if they don’t, the next 2 years will be nothing but QOP conspiracy theories and fake impeachment demands (it would actually be interesting to see if the majority of Republicans would vote to impeach based on nothing…They voted against impeachment in the House in the Senate, twice, despite a landslide of condemning evidenceBut it’s a lot easier to be a coward and protect your power, than it is to be a blatant fraud just to annoy the other person in power. Because MTG‘s pipe dream of endless impeachments would be nothing more than annoyances. None of them would have any chance of being upheld by the Senate, and it would just waste everyone’s time sitting in hearings to hear a bunch of Gym Jordan-level screaming at raccoons.

The Senate may or may not stay split in half, but that hardly has meaning. With the margin required for most things, and the fact that there will still be at least one or two “Dem” senators who are obstructionists for their own greedy desire to be kingmakers, a 50- or 51-seat “majority” for the Democrats means almost nothing if they won’t shoot down the anti-Democratic filibuster. But republicans are the only ones who will do that.

 

If only we could have come up with 14 Congressional districts in Broward, Orange, Alachua, and Leon Counties maybe the Dems wouldn’t have gotten smoked up and down the ballot in Florida!

 

I think Desantis has a 64% approval rating in Florida. That’s pretty freaking nasty. Say what you want but Ron has something going.

 

Buckhorn thought he had a run but trust me, no statewide support. Nada. He couldn't even raise enough money for Hillary to get Irish Ambassadorship promised, which was his fallback. Not near as popular as he thought he was

Dems have tried Jim Davis, Alex Sink, Bill McBride (R.I.P.) and Charlie in 2014, all from this area, all on that formula, all without success. Last night probably sank Jane Castor, who is fine as Mayor but I never thought had a statewide profile like her team does. Janet Cruz lost, which hurts Jane, and two County Commission cases flipped. Harry Cohen barely won, and may face a recount. The female Chief of Police resume also took a hit through Val Demings, a fine candidate.

Florida is just red now. I hate it, but it's reality. I thought Hillsborough County was solid blue, and I think it still will be, last night was an aberration in that regard, although Tallahassee runs Florida cities anyway. But Jane is done for anything statewide

I'm rambling. But there is not an easy solution. State Dems had that tradition of Leroy Collins, Lawton Chiles, Bob Graham (my favorite), Rueben Askew, Buddy McKay, Butterworth, etc. They are gone, as is the Cracker Democrat (just truth). The money and votes and bench in the Democratic Party are in South Florida, but Jewish candidates run terribly in so much of Florida, because they're Jewish - you can see that's what's going on if you dig into the numbers. Big drop off from other Dems in many parts of Florida. Dave Aronberg. Not right, but again truth.

I was shocked that Andrew Gillum looked like he would win, which had me second guessing about the right profile. And then he lost.

Loved, loved loved Gwen Graham, but she was not charismatic on the trail. Would have been a damn fine Governor, far better than RD. But, oh well