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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gatorchamps960608, Nov 9, 2022.

  1. enviroGator

    enviroGator GC Hall of Fame

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    Exactly. Same thing w/ Penn in 2020.

    Don't allow them to start counting ballots until after voting closes, and then complain and call fraud when it takes days to count them.
     
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  2. magnetofsnatch

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    Incorrect. It’s taken an average of 12.5 days over the last EIGHT elections to count votes in Arizona. Long before your Pubs “changed” the rules. I’m simply asking why it takes so damn long.
     
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  3. AzCatFan

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    Arizona allows early ballots to be dropped off at drop boxes and voting centers right up until the polls close at 7 pm local on voting day. Each early ballot must first be b signature verified then counted.

    Arizona starts counting early ballots received before Sunday early. It's why 8 pm local on Tuesday, there's a count ready. However, ballots dropped off on Sunday through election day aren't included in the first drop. These ballots have yet to be verified.

    The verification process is slow. And this year, there was a record number of "late earlies" dropped off in Arizona between Sunday and election day. About 500,000 statewide, and nearly 300,000 in Maricopa County alone. In general, the County has capacity to verify and count between 75,000 and 90,000 votes a day.

    Tuesday and Wednesday are spent counting day off ballots. The County doesn't start counting late earlies until some time Wednesday. Sunday was the earliest the count could be done, and that was the first estimated completion day. Just took a little longer for some reason.
     
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  4. G8trGr8t

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    Then read the article linked if you want to learn
     
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  5. magnetofsnatch

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    I don’t think that article says what you think it does. It says the rules haven’t changed. Maybe you should read it again?
     
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  6. G8R92

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    Says the habits of voters have changed and that the number of mail-in ballots dropped off on election day in Maricopa County increased from 180,000 to 290,000. All of those mail-in ballots have to be verified. Republicans have controlled the Arizona Legislature for at least the last 20 years.

     
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  7. ajoseph

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    Yep. And they voted for the one who didn’t spit BS.
     
  8. ajoseph

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    It is pretty simple, since the Republicans have dominated the Az Elections office. If they wanted a better system, make one (like start counting mail-in ballots before the election, when they are received). If you need blame, blame Arizonan Republicans.
     
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  9. HeyItsMe

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    MAGA tears are beautiful. Weren’t Trumpers calling the left snowflakes when they lost in 2016? All things considered we were upset because we knew Trump would be awful for this country, and lo and behold, we were correct, but we also didn’t throw out claims of fraud left and right because our person didn’t win. You guys are the epitome of sore losers, lol.

    Hard to believe Arizona didn’t vote for a Trump loving, election denying Karen in Kari Lake. If you can’t see why around the country Trump endorsed candidates are getting destroyed, you’re beyond help. If the right would have elected normal, sane conservatives instead of these wing bats, they would have almost certainly won the house and senate. Most Americans don’t like our democracy being threatened because of idiotic conspiracy theories, who woulda thunk it?
     
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  10. docspor

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    cuz it’s fun to slow roll a d bag
     
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  11. Orange_and_Bluke

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  12. g8trjax

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    LOL, always with the maga crap.
     
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  13. HeyItsMe

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    Deserved when you post such complete bill crap with no proof.
     
  14. Orange_and_Bluke

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  15. G8trGr8t

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    different rules, different states.

    something as simple as when you can open envelopes and begin sorting and verifying signatures or how you open the envelope. Some places automate opening of envelopes, some still require letter openers or similar to hand open each envelope.

    and most races are called long before the official totals are released. when the votes ae as tight as they are in Zona, it takes longer to call the election.

    here is another article about how different states do things differently and how election officials in some key battleground states have requested changes to speed up the count as mail in/drop off ballots have proliferated but have been rebuffed by the legislatures in each state.

    Why Does It Take So Long to Count Mail Ballots in Key States? Blame Legislatures | Brennan Center for Justice

    Far from being a fraud, a conspiracy, or even an accident, the slow count of mail ballots is a deliberate choice that lawmakers in key battleground states have made — and with disastrous consequences for public trust in elections. By building these delays into the system, lawmakers give oxygen to false claims of “ballot dumps” and other nonsense that has been used to sow distrust and has led to threats and violence against election workers. We will hear the same false claims after the 2022 election — in which mail ballots again appear to be tilting Democratic — and in every subsequent election until state legislatures fix the process.

    State law prescribes the timing of the vote-counting process. Most states allow election workers to remove ballots from their envelopes and confirm the voter’s eligibility before Election Day, sometimes weeks in advance as the ballots arrive at processing centers. Nearly half of states — including Florida, Ohio, and Texas — allow election officials to scan ballots into tabulators ahead of Election Day so that these ballots can be counted immediately and included in results on election night. (No state allows results to be released before then.)

    The process is drastically different in a minority of states, including key election battlegrounds such as Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. In those states, election workers are, with few exceptions, prohibited from opening mail ballots before Election Day. Election officials in these states have begged their state legislatures for increased flexibility over the past few years and have been repeatedly rebuffed, including by many legislators who criticized slow counting in 2020 or backed claims that the vote count showed evidence of fraud. Only in Michigan did some cities successfully convince their legislature to allow any processing before Election Day. But even in those rare cases, the time permitted is far less than election officials asked for (just two days before Election Day), and the change came too late for many cities to implement it by the 2022 election. As a result of these legislative failures, state officials in each of these three states are warning voters that counting may go on for at least a day or two after polls close.
     
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  18. HeyItsMe

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    People of Arizona today.

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