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NIL Retroactive Lawsuit Against NCAA [House vs. NCAA]

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by doctorg8r, Apr 11, 2024.

  1. doctorg8r

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    Just when you were trying to wrap your head around the NIL mess, we now have a lawsuit "House vs NCAA" for NIL Retroactive pay. Per Brent Beaird, the big concern is how many years back will retroactive pay go. It is still several months away, but an interesting development nonetheless.
     
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  2. Skink

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    As college football takes another slide farther into the shitter
     
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  3. Gatorrick22

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    I'm not sure this back-pay will fly. There were NO legal contracts, and no legal means to pay players for their NIL.
     
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  4. doctorg8r

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    You are correct, but how many lawsuits are based on logic? This may only be about concessions--a backroom deal to get something for nothing!
     
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  5. Crusher

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    Hopefully the court will toss this utter nonsense where it belongs: the crapper
     
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  6. Gatorrick22

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    Agreed... Brought to us by the same people that want to turn college football into one single super-conference. I hope it's thrown out.
     
  7. Claygator

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    Even if this crazy lawsuit survives a motion to dismiss--which I doubt-- in order to prevail the plaintiffs are going to have to specifically prove what their damages were, and who damaged them. Good luck with that.
     
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  8. CHFG8R

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    Why would the courts even take this case? First (OBVIOUS) question is who are you getting this retroactive money from? Sponsors you may have gotten?

    I mean, give me a friggin' break! Not only should they lose, but the lawyers who brought the case should be fined out of business. Talk about a complete and utter waste of everyone's time!
     
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  9. CHFG8R

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    Screw them!!! Lumps of coal is all they should get. And maybe a baseball bat to the bridge of their noses.
     
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  10. Donzo

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    The NIL is out of control, but it’s certainly not the player's fault.

    This is 100% the fault of the NCAA, universities and coaches. The greedy POS are getting back what they taught.
     
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  11. ETGator

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    No Rick . . . I'm thinking about filing a retroactive lawsuit for most of the powerball drawings . . . ALL of which I would have won if only they hadn't imposed an arbitrary deadline of buying tickets before the drawing. LOL! :)
     
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  12. DieAGator

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    Do these NIL contracts specify what has to be done to receive the money promised? Do they have or could include signing bonuses? Can they specify what a player's role or place on the field must be, that they have to play, or even as far as what happens if the player is injured then cannot play? It would not seem possible if it's not an employment contract. Makes sense that NIL should not be available and players become employees so that limits and obligations can be defined, but I guess that's not possible either? Just seems "NIL" was doomed from the beginning. I have yet to see a player do what might be considered reasonable to command $10 or more a month in compensation for a Universities(?) use of NIL nor an associated NIL requiring players to actually do anything.
     
  13. CHFG8R

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    But the NFL has no role, huh? So, the NCAA is the greedy one here, buying yachts and chalets in the Alps on the kid's dime? Oh, wait, that's the NFL owners, whose league is the richest in the world (by far) and yet spends ZERO on player development. But they just skate on this, huh?
     
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  14. CHFG8R

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    No. They can, but they don't have to. They're personal services contracts. Could just be a retainer for future services (signing autographs at events, etc.). That's why this thing was always going Wild Wild West, because the value is entirely in the eyes of the person writing the check and personal services could include a lot of things. . . or nothing at all (just a retainer). I.E. I pay you 10K as a retainer for your services. Maybe I bring you out for a golf tournament where I'm courting a client who is a big Gator fan. Or other crap like that. Come to my tent sale at the car dealership, etc. And if I say that's worth 10K, who's to say it isn't?

    No way to manage something like that in any way other than cluster. . . .
     
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  15. archigator_96

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    The only thing I could think of is going back to the video games for football / basketball with the players info. Before they stopped making them of course. That Ed Obannon sure did stir the hornets nest.
     
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    Yeah, but users were filling in that information and the lawyers went after that too. Even though it was provided completely free of charge. They do the same thing on other games.
     
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    So on the Madden NFL games, the players don't get any money from EA Sports?
     
  18. CHFG8R

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    Yeah, they do. I thought you were talking about going with generic (QB15) names to get around that. People would (and still do) fill those in and upload them for everyone.
     
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    I agree with what you are saying but are you sure that soccer teams don’t have richer owners?
     
  20. archigator_96

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    So back in the day, the Obannon case stopped EA sports from making their NCAA games because they were just using jersey numbers with no names but people were adding their stats and things to upload into the game? ( I never played any of those, too complicated for me).
    But now I think EA is doing the NCAA game again and paying the current college players.