Nikki Haley acknowledges Civil War ‘about slavery’ after facing backlash

I wish I had that filter.

 

I think you whiffed twice so I’ll hazard a guess. It was Civil War virtue signaling. The Civil War is no longer an historical event. It’s a wedge device.

 

I went to UF. *mic drop*

 

Gotcha questions like this are designed to bait rather than to edify. In response to the question, as to whether the slavery was the cause of the war, Haley had correctly responded, “Yes and no”, Haley’s opponents would have wailed, “See? She won’t answer the question!”

 

I'm 63 and, well, already forgot what the thread is about.

 

A historian who says the Civil War is no longer a historical event accuses me of whiffing on a question I already answered twice, directly. Never thought this day would come.

 

Feigning outrage by bolding letters. *sighs* I should have thought it obvious that by my assertion I did not mean that the war did not occur, but rather that it is being used as a wedge 163 years later. Jeebus.

 

Another what if …

Reporter: “So you do acknowledge that slavery was *a* cause of the Civil War ?”

Haley: “Yes. And ?”

*same meltdown ensues on THFSG*

 

Outrage? That’s some pretty strong hyperbole. Look, you said the words, so you can’t be upset if someone takes your words at face value. If you don’t mean it, don’t say it.

 

Excerpt from South Carolina's Declaration of Secession:

Avalon Project - Confederate States of America - Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union

We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.

For twenty-five years this agitation has been steadily increasing, until it has now secured to its aid the power of the common Government. Observing the forms of the Constitution, a sectional party has found within that Article establishing the Executive Department, the means of subverting the Constitution itself. A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction.

This sectional combination for the submersion of the Constitution, has been aided in some of the States by elevating to citizenship, persons who, by the supreme law of the land, are incapable of becoming citizens; and their votes have been used to inaugurate a new policy, hostile to the South, and destructive of its beliefs and safety.

 

It's both an historic event and a wedge issue.

 

I don’t want to catch you saying the sun is rising or it’s raining cats and dogs. Going forward this is a no nuance zone.

 

“I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races. There is a physical difference between the two, which in my judgement, will probably forever forbid their living together on the footing of perfect equality; and inasmuch as it becomes necessary that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position. I have never said anything to the contrary.”

— Abraham Lincoln in 1858 —

“I have no purpose to, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe that I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.”

— Abraham Lincoln in 1861 —

“Free them and make them politically and socially our equals? My own feelings will not admit of this..We cannot make them equals.”

— Abraham Lincoln in 1863 —

 

Thanks, but I don’t think the clarification is necessary. And I shouldn’t have to apologize for the impulsivity of a reader.

 

Best movie of all time makes it clear

 

Saying the Civil War isn’t an historical event anymore isn’t exactly a common phrase like it’s raining cats and dogs.

 

Which of course I did not say. To correct you, I said, “The Civil War is no longer an historical event. It’s a wedge device.”

Now, is it not obvious that I couldn’t have meant that the war was a historical event and then it wasn’t a historical event, rather that I bemoan that it cannot be discussed dispassionately but only referenced to inflame passions ?

Be better.

 

Wow. He really was a Republican.

 

Slave son: “Dad, I long for us to walk as free men and to leave this plantation. But I’m happy to have learned how to shoe horses while we were here. It may serve me well later.”

Slave father: “Son, SON. Let’s keep that on the down-low. And especially don’t say something like that in Florida 160 years from now.”

Slave son: “Where’s Florida ?”