New Florida law requires high schoolers to take financial literacy class

Take a break slugger. Perhaps FL needs a class in gettin' jokes.

 

Normally, I'd agree with the bolded, as to most matters.

But...we're talkinga about PUBLIC schools.

We--the public (tax payer) pay for it; we the people (via our elected reps/government) get to decide what's taught or not taught in those schools.

 

Arthritis...humidity...

Guess I'm a crotchety ol' #%$#% these days.

 

I was talking about the gov, not the tax payers, but how does that work? Should there be a statewide survey through which taxpayers determine the curriculum? When gov messes with schools, it screws them up more than it helps.

 

ah. You're saying gov = governor;
I was reading it as 'government'.

How it works, is if there's a descrepancy between what's being taught in our public schools and what the government thinks ought to be taught, and it's challenged by the folks in power in the government...

Government > teachers unions.

If some think the current situation requires a remedy...then let them take control of the Government, at the ballot box.

Here's a solution--vote RonnyD for POTUS!

Then you won't have to deal with his anti-woke campaign against..."wokeness" in Florida schools.

 

Teaching it to seniors does may wayyyyyy more sense

 

I got an UG in econ at UF & a PhD in econ. I never recall hearing the name Adam Smith or Karl Marx in class. Rarely did I ever hear the terms capitalism or marxism. I've taught econ for almost 30 years & I don't think I've ever mentioned Adam Smith, Marx, capitalism or marxism in class. There seems to be a disconnect between what econ is & what people think it is. Which reminds me of this. Jerry was an Air Force guy who got his PhD with me. He went back & taught at the academy. He was out for a week & had his colleague cover his classes (I knew the guy). Jerry sez when he goes back to class, a student tentatively raises his hand & asks if the sub was an economist. Jerry sez, yes, why? Student sez, well all we learned about was the masterbation habits of female chimps (or maybe gorillas).

95% of economics is finding solutions to probs as evidenced by these papers

https://www.princeton.edu/~dixitak/home/Elaine-Final-Web.pdf

for ac/dc fans

https://www.aeaweb.org/conference/2009/retrieve.php?pdfid=114

 

Nope gov = government. Fed messing with schools is the worst, but state govs are entirely capable of screwing up schools too. Thanks for informing me how schools work. Didn't know a thing about it.

 

So I just grabbed the big textbook of graduate econ theory. Excluding the index, it is 969 pages. It mentions Smith on 3 pages, it does not mention capitalism, Marx or Marxism.

 

I can't help laughing when I see Ron D sign a bill posters don't like it's Look what he jusd did to us. When he signs one posters agree with he had nothing to do with the bill itself. Some things are just too funny.

 

This is because the economics field presumes capitalism = economics. I do understand why you wouldnt learn about the feudal economy for practical reasons, but it seems like at the graduate level there would be some required survey course of historiography or history of the field that would discuss Marx, merchantilism, the transition from feudal economies or whatever on a very cursory level. For a history degree you had to take at least one class covering theory and "history of history" to graduate. But economics has this pretense toward hard science, and they dont take any history of science classes either, which is a shame.

 

And some things you don’t understand

 

Is that the target grade level or is it simply that starting with this year's incoming 9th grade class, they will have to take the financial literacy course before graduating?

I do agree that it would have a greater impact on kids that may already have had employment experience than a 9th grader. As for filling up 18 weeks of curriculum, they should combine it with soft skills like face to face communication, dining etiquette, composing an email, etc. Kids are going to need these skills when they enter the work force and not all of them go to college.

New Grads Have No Idea How to Behave in the Office. Help Is on the Way.

 

I agree wholeheartedly. I think my biggest question is the implementation. What grade level? Curriculum? What course gets pushed out? Will it take the place of an elective?

I’ve taught my students how conduct themselves at a business dinner, how to dress for an interview just kinda on an ad hoc basis. The old B or D trick is always a good one.

 

I would agree with you on 9th graders, would rather see it taught junior year. May be they figure they will do it before the dropouts begin.

I would disagree on 18 weeks. Properly taught and led, the subject matter could easily fill 18 weeks. For many of the students, this would probably be the most important and useful course they take in high school.

 

18 weeks for high school kids? Too many have the attention span of gnats. Nah, I’d say 6-8 weeks at most. The other problem could be finding folks to do it. I’m curious to see how many folks quit between now and the start of the school year

 

Oh I fully understand. Anything pro-Trump or pro-DeSantis is going to be met with a ton of nonsense from the too hot communists I mean liberals.

 

Like I said, you don’t understand what this conversation is about.

 

Nah. Make it long, boring, and grueling.

Then offer an opt out: get a job, no mo' need for the class.

 

Long, boring, and grueling for who? The teacher?

All kidding aside, I can see schools putting there weakest link in this position.