New “patriotic” development requires homeowners to fly the US flag

HOAs are the absolute worst.

 

Mine not only specifies paint colors for wall and trim, but the store you have to purchase your paint from. They changed our official mailbox several years ago and everyone had to purchase one for $300. Our garage doors can only be open when cars are entering or exiting the garage. No overnight street parking. No work trucks, RVs or boats unless garaged. A list of approved landscaping plants. No flags or signage except the American flag and one for sale sign. That list is not exhaustive, mine is a very heavily regulated neighborhood.

 

I don't disagree. But as I said if people would actually read the governing documents before buying, alot of hassle would be avoided. People love the idea of rules to protect their investment until it affects what they want to do.

 

I live in an old Tampa neighborhood where are all the South Tampa types are moving in, knocking down the trees and old houses and infilling with nondescript boxes.

You don’t get cease and desist letters; you get disapproving looks for looking insufficiently rich and beautiful.

 

What an overreaction. HOA's require stupid stuff all the time. There are some that require permission TO fly a flag.

No one 9s forced to do anything because no one is forced to buy a house.

Some HOAs have houses all the same color. Some require no cars outside of garages. Some wont let you put wreaths on a door without approval.

The Nazi talk is nuts... And some of you likely live in such an HOA.

I actually moved out of 9ne and bought a little land to avoid such nonsense, but HOA's are militant anyway, so why the fuss.

 

Hmm. Fundamentally seems to violate your right for free speech in a way that requiring two maple trees in your front yard doesn't.

 

He doesnt have a problem with it for those who want it, and is stating that his personal choice is to avoid it.

Thats the same for any neighborhood with an HOA. You have yo choose

 

1. It isnt the government doing it.
2. You arent forced to live there.

I get a kick out of people being upset by this but also mad if a hockey player doesnt participate in a "compelled" pride night. By putting rainbow tape on his stick.

It is all nonsense.

 

Some HOA should pass a new rule that you have to fly a Rainbow flag.

 

This isnt an old HOA forcing anything.
That would be different.

If an alternative lifestyle neighborhood wants to start up with such rules, more power to them. Absolutely no issue with their right to do so.

 

Hmm. Since you quoted me I feel compelled to respond Im not mad bro. It's a new place so people move there knowing the rules which is a bonus and its not like a flag is a cross or something. You're probably 1 lawsuit away from someone claiming it is against their religion to put up idols and a flag is an idol or something. Not really sure.

 

“alternative lifestyle”. Wow. Way to dehumanize.

 

Nobody is saying people can't move there and HOAs can't do this. Good lord, talk about a strawman.

Simply pointing out how requiring someone to fly an American flag isn't freedom. In fact it's the opposite and quite ironic.

 

Remember it's not actually about freedom. It's about saying you're all about freedom and using symbols to prove it.

 

Different Supreme Court, to be sure, but eloquent articulation of the sentiment by the former great Justice Jackson, not the current great


The court held, in a 6–3 decision delivered by Justice Jackson, that it was unconstitutional for public schools to compel students to salute the flag. It thus overruled its decision in Minersville School District v. Gobitis (1940), finding that the flag salute was "a form of utterance" and "a primitive but effective means of communicating ideas". The court wrote that any "compulsory unification of opinion" was doomed to failure and was antithetical to the values set forth in the First Amendment. The court stated:

If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.

The Supreme Court announced its decision on June 14, Flag Day.


West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette - Wikipedia


It goes without saying that the current high Court would never utter such a sentiment

 

It’s about the freedom to oppress. I know, seems likes an oxymoron, but remember that they think that way. See Moms for Liberty.

 

Yeah I’d never live anywhere with a HOA.

 

No one's being oppressed in this instance.
And I don't see how Moms for Liberty are about oppression. But certainly power over others, which is close

 

1. I have a red hot disdain for how the majority of HOAs operate.
2. Since it is new development, it’s fair to say IF you choose to live here , the following items will be required.
3. We fly 2 flags. Small
Gator yard flag is permanent and a majority of time a standard size American. As much as I love both, it would look pretty tacky it every house was required them.
4. There is 100% chance someone will move in and file suit

 

We disagree. Lincoln Sanitary Fair and all that.