Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

You can't argue my points so you try to reply to a friendly. Lazy. So your solution is for Israel to not retaliate against Hamas because they hide behind human shields who also want to kill all Jews and show overwhelming support to Hamas and the Oct 7th Massacre. If you had a loved one killed on Oct 7th by Hamas I'm sure you'd be singing a different tune. Just because the terrorists are making it extremely hard for the IDF to do their job doesn't mean they should give up and just wait for the next terror attack. Has Israel made mistakes? Yes. Do mistakes result in innocent lives lost? Yes. That's war. It sucks. But make no mistake this was 100% on Hamas just like when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor it wasn't the US's fault for retaliating.

 

Middle East Eye on Instagram: "Orthodox Jewish protesters in Jerusalem burned Israeli flags and brandished anti-Zionist banners during a rally against the creation of the Israeli state on Tuesday, which marked Israel’s 76th Independence Day."

"Orthodox Jewish protesters in Jerusalem burned Israeli flags and brandished anti-Zionist banners during a rally against the creation of the Israeli state on Tuesday, which marked Israel’s 76th Independence Day."

Just more anti-semites amirite?

 

I couldn’t agree with your last two sentences any more.

 

I think that we all know that there is no "truth" in Truth Social, kind of like there is relatively little news on Fox News.

 

Actually there has always been a very small segment of ultra Orthodox Jews have opposed the creation of the State of Israel. To anyone actually familiar with the historic background of Zionism their existence shouldn't be surprising at all. According to their interpretation of scripture the coming of the Messiah is a precondition to the creation of a Jewish homeland.
Anti-Zionism Among Jews

Jews who criticize or oppose Zionism are usually from fringe Orthodox sects and maintain that Israel can only be regained miraculously. They view the present state as a blasphemous human attempt to usurp God’s role, and many seek to dismantle the secular State of Israel. However, unlike many gentile anti-Zionists, Jewish anti-Zionists usually firmly believe in the Jewish right to the Land of Israel, but only at the future time of redemption. The best-known group of the Jewish religious anti-Zionists is the Neturei Karta.​

 

Do you consider their anti-zionism to be anti-semitic?

 

Obviously not although to the extent that they support organizations like Hamas and some of them actually do they are unintentionally suicidal.

 

They are neither. As I understand it (but have not studied it in-depth), They don’t believe the time has come for the Jewish State, according to their reading of the scriptures. They’re not anti-Zionist, because they want a Jewish State, just not the present day Israel. They are not self-loathing, so they are not anti-Semitic. (The are in my opinion, whackadoos, but I guess that’s not your questions).

 

And those avoiding death get Trail of Tears to there new home.

 

It’s kind of wild any of those sorts of ultra-orthodox would live in Israel though - despite its current blasphemous existence (according to them). It isn’t particularly rational.

Makes them seem almost like Israel’s version of anti-govt extremists. Good luck with that I guess.

 

Aren't all the ultra orthodox over there like welfare queens? You basically get government money to read the torah and stuff instead of working, and until recently you didnt have to sign up for military service either.

 

Some are, some aren't. It's one of the consequences of a parliamentary system based on proportional representation with a large number of parties. In a close election a fringe religious party with a small number of seats in the Knesset can determine the balance of power. In a way it's just as absurd as the American electoral college system in which a relatively small number of voters in a few swing states can determine the presidency.

 

Just so people don't forget what kind of savages Hamas is, they just now found the bodies of some of the women they raped and murdered on Oct 7th in Gaza.

IDF find the body of Israeli hostage Shani Louk - seven months after she was paraded semi-naked in the back of a truck by Hamas in images that horrified the world | Daily Mail Online

 

shocking and maddening. how one man broke a peace deal and he wasn't even part of either side of the deal

An Egyptian spy single-handedly ruined the Israel-Hamas cease-fire: CNN (msn.com)

An Egyptian spy torpedoed a potential cease-fire deal between Israel and Hamas earlier this month by secretly changing its terms before handing it between the warring sides, CNN reports.

The intelligence official, Ahmed Abdel Khalek, changed the deal after Israel had already agreed to it by adding in more of Hamas' demands to the framework to clinch their approval, according to the report. Abdel Khalek works for Abbas Kamel, according to CNN, who is the head of Egypt's general intelligence service.

One of the biggest points of contention in the deal was a call for "sustainable calm" to be reached in its second phase, according to CNN. Israel is opposed to discussing an end to the war until Hamas is defeated and all of its hostages are freed, the outlet reports.

If it had been passed, the deal could have seen the release of some Israeli hostages and Palestinian prisoners and temporarily paused combat. US officials have pushed for a temporary cease-fire in the hopes that a stop to the fighting could open the possibility to a more lasting peace.

 

In case anybody needs any reminders who these college protesters are standing up for.

 

No matter how despicable and horrific the terrorists are, and they do deserve to die, Israel’s current strategy is only hurting their future. They become more and more isolated every day.

Norway, Ireland and Spain say they will recognize a Palestinian state, deepening Israel's isolation

they have to change the narrative.

 

Why do you think the "college protesters" (an inappropriate conflation) are standing up for the Hamas terrorists shown in that video, let alone any Hamas terrorists?

 

This may be one explanation.
https://www.axios.com/2024/02/16/tiktok-news-gen-z-social-media

• Multiple polls have found TikTok to be the top source of news for Gen Z, and an increasingly popular source for Americans overall.
• A 2023 Pew survey found that one-third of adults under 30 regularly scroll TikTok for news, up 255% since 2020.

How Gen Z Gets Their News

Although they're at the opposite end of the political spectrum, college age supporters of Hamas are as siloed and as willfully ignorant as the red hat wearing supporters of the defeated former president.

 

And we have admission from a Hamas terrorist. And people wonder why Israel is doing what they are doing. Shit like this is why.

The father and son Hamas rapists - Terrorists describe going house to house carrying out sex attacks and murder: 'One screamed and cried... father raped her then I did then my cousin did then father killed her' | Daily Mail Online



Father-of-seven Radi, a member of the Hamas Security Service, who was captured in March in Gaza, describes how he, his son and other terrorists broke into the Nir Oz kibbutz.

Without any visible sign of remorse he said: 'In each house where we found someone, we either killed them or kidnapped them.'

Pressed further he added: 'In the first house I found a woman and her husband, and we hit them with fire and killed them…they were in their late 40s.'

He then went on to confess how he had raped one woman and said: 'She was screaming, she was crying, I did what I did, I raped her.

 

Israel has identified the bodies,,and bring home, multiple hostages.

Israel has identified over 50 massive tunnels directly into Egypt, thus slowing the flow of terrorists and arms.

Israel has placed more of Gaza under control, all while over 1 million residents were safely evacuated.

Israel has established beyond any doubt that the Hamas reporting of casualties is so far-fetched that calling it fiction is giving it too much credit.

They may be more “isolated” in the minds of many, but its citizens become safer every day.