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Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

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  1. dingyibvs

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    Have you seen the videos of suffering Palestinians? War is a terrible thing, violence will only beget more violence. Hamas needs to be dealt with with extreme prejudice, but afterwards Israel should also take a hard look at themselves. Such an attack, especially with its size yet remarkable surprise, would not be possible without external assistance AND ripe conditions on the ground for radicalizing a lot of the population that's willing to go along with it.
     
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  2. GCNumber7

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    Blows my mind how people can be so cruel to each other. Unfortunately it’s just going to get worse from here on out.
     
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  3. vaxcardinal

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    US intelligence also missed this. There’s a tremendous amount of sharing between the intelligence services. Lots of analysis going on now to better understand what was known and not recognized
     
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  4. Orange_and_Bluke

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    You guys are brothers?
     
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  5. flgator2

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    Iran Greenlit Palestinian Terror Attacks On Israel; Israel Vows To ‘Strike’ Iran’s Leadership: Report | The Daily Wire

    The timeline means that the attacks were planned around the time that the Biden administration reached a deal in mid-August to unfreeze $6 billion for Iran, and since money is fungible, Iran could have freed up other budgetary resources to support terrorism, according to a report from the foreign policy experts at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), a nonprofit focusing on national security and foreign policy.

    The meeting where Iranian officials gave the authorization to carry out the attack was held in Beirut last Monday, the Journal noted. The newspaper confirmed the story with multiple officials in the Hamas and Hezbollah terror groups and with a European official and an adviser to the Syrian government. The Biden administration claimed on Sunday that they did not have “any information” that the attack was planned by Iran.

    The report noted that top Israeli officials have pledged to take out Iran’s leadership if they determine that Iran was behind the attack, which killed at least 700 Israelis, wounded 2,500+ more, and led to the kidnapping of over 100.
     
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  6. gatorchamps960608

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    Trump gave Israeli intelligence to Lavrov and Kislyak in the Oval Office which Russia shared with Iran and then Hamas.

    We don't have a Speaker so the House can't approve military funds and Tuberville is blocking military promotions.

    I don't see a way for the GOP to thread the needle between their love of Putin and Israel here. They may have to pick American interests for once.
     
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  7. RealGatorFan

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    There are many videos during that peace concert of Hamas paragliding into the festival and shooting everyone as they landed. Reminds me of Red Dawn (the 1st one, not the recent poor remake) where they parachute into the school grounds and then start shooting the school up. Difference here is Hamas is a bunch of savages with guns and the one was an organized military operation.
     
  8. uftaipan

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    Those images are horrifying, but I rather doubt that Hamas waited until that German woman was a corpse to strip her. Given that other video we saw where the woman was being forcibly removed from her boyfriend, I would say Hamas is not even pretending that rape is not one of the tools they are using to sow terror.
     
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  9. uftaipan

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    Sure, we “missed” it, but how much do you imagine we’re even looking at it? We probably get any intel we have on Gaza straight from Israel.
     
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  10. citygator

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    Righties trying to conspiracy theory tie Biden to the attack on this thread for political gain is all you need to know about the disgusting level of right wing politics.
     
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  11. vaxcardinal

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    there's vast amounts of data we collect.
     
  12. AgingGator

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    I prefer them soliciting money from willing donors than the the Zelenski method of fleecing the USG and UN for money.
     
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  13. okeechobee

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    I agree, we have eyes and ears in lots of places. Our IC can and does some good work, but they have undermined themselves to an extent. For example, much a hubbub was made when President Trump supposedly “sided” against the USIC when on stage with Putin, but it turns out there’s very real evidence and reason to believe we were lied to about Russian interference in the 2016 election. Or at least the extent of it. So while they have some amazing capabilities, they are not the infallible, can’t miss agency that many make them out to be and that they themselves purport to be. Like any other large government bureaucracy, they have their self-imposed limitations and warts.
     
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  14. flgator2

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  15. duchen

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    Nothing weird about that post. Poster outed himself very clearly.
     
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    Intelligence that we would have that the Israelis might not would likely be incidental to Iranian intel rather than Gaza specific
     
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  17. duchen

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    Hamas’ charter calls for the death of Jews everywhere. It is every bit the anti-Semitic document that Mein Kampf is. There is no deal with Hamas. They won’t discuss a deal. They are aligned with the Mullahs in Iran in that respect.
     
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  18. uftaipan

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    Without a doubt. Far more than we analyze to be sure.
     
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  19. uftaipan

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    Concur.
     
  20. uftaipan

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    Give it a rest.
     
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