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Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gatorrick22, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. duchen

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    That's like saying that the US was not defending itself after Pearl Harbor because it engaged in military action against Japan.

    Thanks, for proving my point.
     
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  2. BigCypressGator1981

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  3. philnotfil

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    Most dishonest people don't rape, kidnap or murder either. Those actions have nothing to do with honesty. Honesty is about whether or not they are telling the truth. Rape, kidnapping, and murder are no where on the line between honesty and dishonesty.

    I believe Israel is more honest than Hamas. But I don't believe either Israel or Hamas is fully honest.
     
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    So you think Israel is more honest than the terrorists. Great critical thinking there…

    Not sure what your issue with Israeli
    Defending itself against terrorists who have publicly stated they will keep doing what happened on Oct 7th until they kill every Jew. I guess you think they should sit back and take it.
     
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  5. ridgetop

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    It may not be THE answer to your question but it is AN answer
    They are anti semetic.
     
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  6. ridgetop

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    Please share with what government/ countries you believe are fully honest? Is there a scale? 1-10?
     
  7. philnotfil

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    None. There are no governments that are fully honest.
     
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  8. BigCypressGator1981

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    So lazy. You’re like a liberal who accuses everyone of racism.
     
  9. ridgetop

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    So you believe that NONE of the people clearly choosing to listen to Hamas’s side of the story over Israel’s are anti semetic? Seems to be a strange stance but I’m not surprised.
    Of course if you do believe that some may be anti Semitic then my original answer is correct. It’s not THE (definitive) answer but it is AN answer.
     
  10. mdgator05

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    By that logic, if somebody said "Why don't Republicans like Obama," answering "They are racist" without any kind of qualifiers would be accurate because it is AN answer as there are certainly racist Republicans in the world who criticized Obama because they didn't like black people. I suspect that you would feel far differently about that characterization.
     
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  11. BigCypressGator1981

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    No. I never said that. I’m sure some of them positively detest Jewish people. But to wave your hand and declare anyone who is saying anything you don’t like about Israel as “anti-Semitic” is absolute horseshit. And that’s what we are seeing.
     
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  12. ridgetop

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    Not at all how I responded and you know it. I clearly said it wasn’t THE answer but it was an answer. Can you not read or do you struggle with comprehension? Or are you just trying to be obstinate? Which one, because I was clear in my response both times.
     
  13. ridgetop

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    Strawman since there is a HUGE difference between declaring they are racists and declaring that racism isn’t the answer but is clearly an answer. Meaning THE answer is the definitive, only,final answer .. they are all racists.. but an answer.. meaning more than one … is that some are racists. Again, reading comprehension is your friend. And logic clearly isn’t.
     
  14. mdgator05

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    If you are going to criticize others for reading comprehension and logic, I'd suggest you know what you actually said. You said "They are anti semetic." You did not say "Anti-semitism." You did not say "some are anti-semitic."
     
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  15. ridgetop

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    And I qualified that statement by saying
    It is not THE answer but it is an AN answer -

    which is undoubtably true. I’m not sure why you or cypress are arguing that point. It wasn’t lazy. It wasn’t horse ahit. It was absolutely true…
     
  16. mdgator05

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    Those articles refer to the answer not the people. As such, the phrase could just mean it is part of the answer for why all of the people do that. So your only accusation was to call "they" anti-Semitic without qualifiers.
     
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  17. ridgetop

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    The question asked how could anyone (singiular) believe Hamas is telling the truth(paraphrased).one answer is that that person (singular) is anti-semetic. Another answer might be that person is easily confused.. whatever. It isn’t the answer ( the only answer ) that may work just one of many.
     
  18. BigCypressGator1981

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    It’s like you can’t even consider that some people are simply bothered by the IDF killing 4,000 children. Is that not a conceivable reason? Why just trot out the anti-Semitism claim (qualifiers or not)? Did the alternative seriously not occur to you?