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Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gatorrick22, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. wgbgator

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    No one is 'stepping up' without American approval, and right now we are backing Israel's barbarism without sanction. What you are asking would require leadership from this country, not bootlicking a client state.
     
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  2. wgbgator

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    Tens of thousands of supporters of Israel rally in Washington, crying 'never again'

    Its great to see Americans put aside their differences in pursuit of war, its really all that unites us these days. Even the "God Sent Hitler" pastor was there today in support of Israel's war!
     
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  4. duchen

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    That you place Israel below Hamas says more about you than any response from me would.
     
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  5. duchen

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    Post 3295. The one right after yours.
     
  6. wgbgator

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    Believe it or not I don't have a rankings system for countries or organizations, this isnt college football. Israel isnt going to play Hamas in the Cheezit Genocide Bowl for the national championship of Evil.
     
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  7. duchen

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    The next phase is these sensitive targets. As Israel narrows the above ground noise and takes out tunnels, it will have to address the hospitals and other sensitive areas where Hamas has taken refuge and or shorts from. The hostages are also likely to be in tunnels underneath.
     
  8. duchen

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    . Hamas isn’t a country. It is a terror organization. It’s charter supports the killing of Jews everywhere. Even in their living rooms in America. Look it up. Learn something today.

    And, you made the comparison
     
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  9. wgbgator

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    That's why I said "countries or organizations" and I dont know why you insist me mentioning Israel and Hamas in the same breath is some kind of elevation of Hamas. I dont hold either in much esteem!
     
  10. duchen

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    That isn’t an IDF statement. The IDF says that it does not know how she died. Don’t jump to conclusions that Hamas is telling the truth either. Of course they are going to blame an air strike. Maybe true. Maybe not. She was the hostage who Hamas used in a propaganda video.
     
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  11. BigCypressGator1981

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    I know it’s not an IDF statement. That’s how I know it’s a lie. I had like 6 of my Jewish friends post that on instagram today. Parroting blatantly false information. Why? Again, it’s bad enough she was kidnapped and died. Why fabricate the part about her being executed when the IDF has not confirmed it? It’s straight propaganda.
     
  12. VAg8r1

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    How do you know it's false? While the report of the cause of her death on social media hasn't been confirmed and it may very well be a frabication neither has the Hamas narrative that she was killed in an Israeli airstrike. At this point either scenario is equally probable and neither has been confirmed. Why not keep an open mind?
     
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  13. BigCypressGator1981

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    Good god it’s like I’m taking crazy pills. Hamas said it was an Israeli air strike. IDF says they can’t confirm. American jews on social media proclaim she was executed. Thousands re-post it. It may end up being true or not. But the “she was executed” is being completely fabricated at the moment.
     
  14. duchen

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    Because they didn’t check it first. Posted it before thinking. It happens. Happened to me with the parody NYT. I was working, saw it, posted it and then realized it had to be wrong because it was dated in 1943, the year my father went into the coast guard at 17. Which is the Navy during war
     
  15. BigCypressGator1981

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    lmao. Or maybe they don’t like the look of accidentally killing their own hostage in a bombing. It’s like you can’t even consider the possibility that the Jews accidentally killed their own hostage and are peddling propaganda to cover it up. Crazy town.
     
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  16. BigCypressGator1981

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    Hypothetical: Israel accidentally kills one of their own hostages in a bombing.

    what would you expect Hamas to do?
     
  17. VAg8r1

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    So what you're saying is that because the IDF cannot confirm the story it must be false. While it very well may be a fabrication and maybe it's just me but I interpret the statement from the IDF to mean there isn't sufficient information to reach a definitive conclusion either way. Again maybe it's just me but I do not consider Hamas a very trustworthy source. Although it's somewhat off-topic for this specific story one example of the credibility of the terrorist organization was story I listened to from a journalist who interviewed Hamas leaders regarding the events of October 7th. Despite photograph evidence to the contrary as well as eye witness reports they claimed that the deaths were Israeli civilians who were caught in the crossfire between Hamas fighters and Israeli security forces and let's not forget the errant rocket from Islamic Jihad that hit a hospital. Hamas claimed the source was Israeli despite evidence to the contrary.
     
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  18. BigCypressGator1981

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    I expect Hamas to tell the truth when it serves their interests. So if a missile strike killed one of their hostages I would expect them to broadcast it exactly as they are claiming to - provide video of the girl while she was alive in their custody and then say “hey Israel look what you did” and provide photographic proof she was dead. They did just that and IDF issued a statement very specifically saying they don’t know how she died (ie they don’t deny it was their air strike that did it). Some American Jew posts that it was an execution on istagram, it goes viral and everyone sympathetic to Jews in the US takes it as gospel.

    Nobody said it was an execution except some American jew who absolutely would not know better than the IDF. They were 100% lying.

    *** correction - it looks the the original poster of this information is Israeli. Still not IDF but not an American either. My apologies for the mistake.
     
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