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Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

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  1. BigCypressGator1981

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    You’re blind with rage right now. Not everyone that is protesting is celebrating Hamas. That is simply untrue. And no protests happened in the US before Israel had retaliated (I’m open to being proven wrong if you want to provide a link). I didn’t raise that point - he did. He used that specific point as proof that the protests in the US were celebrating the Hamas attacks. It’s untrue and you still agreed. Whether you think the argument is senseless or not.
     
  2. OklahomaGator

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    Will you at least admit that some of the people protesting are celebrating Hamas?
     
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  3. duchen

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    It is unfortunate you insist on converting what people say to you into what you choose to perceive instead of what they actually say. It renders discussion worthless. Since you insist on changing what I say to fit your perspective instead of what I actually say, I see no reason to discuss this further. Believe what you want.
     
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  4. duchen

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    This is from London October 7. Multiple articles if one does a Google search. Authorities describing people celebrating the attack. Met Police step up patrols amid reports of people 'celebrating attack on Israel'. It certainly is comforting to suggest that the people marching are protesting Israel’s response on those early days. But, it’s not true. And in the early days, Israel’s response was to get control of the border and stop the intrusions.
     
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  7. ridgetop

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    Don’t bother
    She will not admit that she is on the wrong side here. Using the word EVERYONE gives cover ..not EVERYONEthat was protesting is celebrating Hamas. That’s simply untrue”
    Even though I have not seen a single poster make that claim. Just a straw man argument to inflame and give cover.
     
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  8. BigCypressGator1981

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    (My post was in the anti-semitism in the US thread, not this one - but yes clearly some are celebrating. The only point I was making is that some are not and it’s not fair to lump them all together. At which point 95 asked how that’s possible if the protests started before Israel retaliated - which simply didn’t happen in the US)
     
  9. BigCypressGator1981

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    see this is what I’m talking about. I’m on the “wrong side” here. Accusing me of being an anti-Semite. $&@$ you dude.

    Oh and PS - I’m a man.
     
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  10. BigCypressGator1981

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    We were discussing this in the thread about anti semitism IN THE UNITED STATES. Is England in the United States? (That’s a rhetorical question). Post some more fake NYT headlines for us.
     
  11. duchen

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    You didn’t comment on the Harvard article. True, they didn’t celebrate what Hamas did. They justified it.
     
  12. duchen

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    Here is more: organizations in the US releasing statements praising the attack. You don’t need to make the claim they are protesting Israel’s response— just read what they say Anti-Israel Activists Celebrate Hamas Attacks that Have Killed Hundreds of Israelis
     
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  13. wgbgator

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  14. duchen

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    Go ahead and explain your post.
     
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  15. ridgetop

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    Awww so sorry.. I thought from the avatar you were a woman.
    Anyway.. please point out in that post where I said you were antisemitic? Pretty sure those words never came up.
    But go ahead, inflame some more and throw up more straw men.
     
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  16. BigCypressGator1981

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    You said I’m on the wrong side. What does that mean?
     
  17. BigCypressGator1981

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    Anyone who is celebrating the attacks on Israel is disgusting and anti-Semitic. Not everyone who attends a “free Palestine” rally is celebrating the massacre. You act like there weren’t “free Palestine” rallies prior to Oct 7th. What were they celebrating back then?

    I know you can’t wrap your head around it but there IS middle ground. One needn’t blindly support Israel or Palestine without equivocation.
     
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  18. wgbgator

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    I mean, its literally on their webpage. They are the largest Jewish civil rights org in the country. They also basically came up with "new anti-Semitism" in 1974 and included it as part of their philosophy. This is what an Israeli minister was saying in 1973:

    ADL publishes New Anti-Semitism in 1974.

    New antisemitism - Wikipedia

    For a good thoughtful discussion on this (for anyone who is interested):

    ‎Know Your Enemy: Elon Musk, the Jews, and the ADL (w/ Mari Cohen, Alex Kane, & Peter Beinart) on Apple Podcasts
     
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  19. ridgetop

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    Of the argument! Quit reading in to things. You want to hedge your words by saying not EVERYONE is supporting Hamas.. which no one said. You want to claim I called you antisemitic.. which I didn’t. It’s not only duchen that seems a little emotional on this topic.
     
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  20. BigCypressGator1981

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    My apologies if I misunderstood you. When I disagree with someone I say they are wrong. Never once in my life have I said they are on the “wrong side” to convey that point.