Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

That’s because you expect Jews to accept being marched to the slaughter. Because that is what Hamas did and promises for Jews in the future. I am appalled that Hamas engaged in such conduct and hides behind a civilian population. Israel has no alternative in dealing with Hamas.

 

I absolutely do NOT expect that. From the very beginning of this thing I’ve supported Israel in their right to fight back. That doesn’t mean I can’t be appalled by the deaths of innocent civilians irrespective of their skin color, nationality or religion. Even if it’s unavoidable. Don’t try to paint me as an anti-Semite because I’m not in lock step with every single thing Netanyahu. You find yourself agreeing with lots of the folks on this board whom you disagree with on nearly every other subject under the sun. Your emotions are clouding your judgment.

 

Because you can't grasp that Israel is defending itself and Hamas is using human shields and now Duchen judgement is "clouded"? That's a you issue. You would've been screaming from the hilltops about racism if what happened to the Jewish student at Harvard had happened to a black student. You know it, I know it. But because it's not someone you identify with, you dismiss it like it's nothing.

 

This is not nearly as simplistic as most want to make it. If you ever want progress, at least try to understand the other’s perspective and facts they know and rely on.

 

So, while we’re on the subject, where’s the hostages?!?!

 

I'd assume in the tunnels.

 

I often think of how lucky I am to be born when and where I was. I'd hate to be a Palestinian civilian. Having to live in one of the most population dense areas in the world at the mercy of a decade and half land, sea, and air blockade. Having no power, food, water, or gas. Living in an open air prison. Knowing that if I speak up about Hamas, I could be tortured. Knowing that if I am anywhere near the cell phone signal of a target, or near somewhere that they've been previously, that there's a good chance that I'll get a warhead on my forehead.

 

Nobody wants to see people die. It’s a tragedy of epic proportion. But, there is a war. And while Hamas does not follow international law, Israel must still prosecute the War — where the enemy is, and how the enemy is entrenched. If a Hamas is using its people and its infrastructure to hide its war machine, that is further crime committed by Hamas.

 

The only difference is that the Japanese were honorable enough to attack a military installation and not put infants in ovens while they raped the mom and made her listen to her infant scream. It was strictly a military decision. Nobody takes more care than the west to lessen the impact on civilians. Our servicemen come home with PTSD because they inadvertently killed a civilian. In this current case the Hamas fighters come home to cheers and are celebrated for putting an axe into the head of a 7yo. The world needs to see complete annihilation without regard to proportionality. Then and only then you can talk cease fire.

 

And I think she’s right. Hating someone for their religious belief is abhorrent to everything we stand for. And that goes every way (Christian, Muslim and Jew). It’s something that should be screamed at every campus. Those that cheer the kidnapping and murder of a Jewish civilians on October 7th should be the first in line to hear that message.

 

Gaza could be an eastern Mediterranean Las vegas with money and jobs flowing if the people could separate themselves from Hamas. They could build deep water ports and trade with dozens of nations. But they choose to spend Aid on weapons and fortifying tunnels. Tel Aviv is a gorgeous waterfront modern city akin to Miami. Gaza is 70 miles away with access to the same waterways. Why is one flourishing?

 

This is why Hamas must be eradicated.
Hamas vows to repeat October 7 attacks and bring about the 'annihilation' of Israel while cynically saying it 'did not want to hurt civilians' as it slaughtered 1,400 people 'but there were complications on the ground'

Hamas official vows to 'repeat' Oct 7 attack repeatedly to teach Israel a lesson - The Economic Times

 

No there is a world of difference. The existential threat posed by the Nazis (and in this case their allies) was far more substantial than the threat posed to Israel (let alone the rest of the west) by Hamas. Germany invaded and occupied 22 sovereign nations during World War II. We dropped those bombs to stop Germany from global domination and even then it was an extremely difficult decision. I don’t mean to downplay the atrocities of Hamas but they don’t pose a global threat like Germany/Italy/Japan in WWII. The situations are completely different.

 

Agree. The population density of Singapore (22,254 people per square mile) is almost identical to that of the Gaza strip (roughly 21,000 people per square mile). This is a photo of Singapore.

 

They have the world at their back screaming proportionality and pause and parroting their propaganda. Why wouldn’t they repeat it.

 

I’m talking specifically about the use of both bombs. their use was near the end of the war. The Japanese were losing previously held territory. We were positioning for a ground invasion of main island of Japan. Then and only then was the calculation made to use both when the estimates came back at 1,000,000 plus US casualties. At this point of the war it wasn’t about stoping imperial Japanese expansion it was a military decision to not allow millions of casualties on our side just so less people died on their side. So long story short we killed/injured 200,000+ Japanese
Civilians to save 1,000,000+US servicemen

 

Its laughable that people believe this, a Western country dropped the atom bomb for Christ sake. Something like 500,000 children are estimated to have died because of the Iraq War and sanctions alone.

Let’s remember Madeleine Albright for who she really was