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NCAA NIL Estimated Revenue and scholarships 2025

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by wearetheboys, Jan 3, 2025 at 9:05 AM.

  1. paidinfull

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    They're wanting to approve the third party deals too. That's what I was talking about in the quoted portion. It said those deals would need to be fair market value, but if they decided the deals were too much, they'd let the two parties renegotiate. I'm saying if everyone is paying the big bucks, then who decides what too much is? So far this has been a follow the leader thing. If one guy is paying this much, some other guy will pay that much, so on, and so fourth. The numbers could go up with every deal, and who's to say that isn't fair?

    I'm also wondering who is going to get stuck looking at and approving every single NIL deal in the country. It's bonkers that they're even acting like they're going to attempt to regulate the third party deals.
     
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  2. Brodeur

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    So what you're saying is you don't think the NCAA can stop the players from being paid in full?
     
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  3. paidinfull

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  4. Gatorrick22

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    How is the House getting all these legal maneuvers getting done? Through committees? Through what means? Who made them the arbiter of all college athletics... without the Senate's involvement?
     
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  5. Wanne15

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    I can put whoevers face on a billboard and pay them whatever i deem necessary i would think? Is someone going to regulate what im allowed to pay for advertising?
     
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  6. CHFG8R

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    No. Technically it's a personal services contract. Also, doesn't NIL allow circumvention of Title IX, since it's technically between a 3rd party and the player? If the payments come directly from the school (or UAA), then Title IX becomes an issue.
     
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  7. G8R92

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    From what I understand, this is a hard cap on roster sizes. Baseball rosters expanded for COVID to 40 and now they will be back down to 35. It's discretionary to the school as far as number of scholarships to grant but it would be a recruiting disadvantage not to do so.
     
  8. 62gator

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    Interesting read. BIG changes are about to happen.




    “In a world where more parity is expected, where does that leave the big boys?

    As it turns out, keeping their advantage is quite simple, experts contend. They use their big brand, sprawling metro areas, massive alumni bases, wealthy donors and rich relationships to exceed college football’s new cap.”

    “That’s going to be the new frontier: the above-the-cap, supplemental NIL,” says Walker Jones, the head of the Ole Miss collective and a leading member of The Collective Association. “That’s the new battlefield. The question is, can it really be regulated?”
     
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  9. Crusher

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    The NCAA is trying for an end-run around the Supremes re: the NIL issue. They are trying to use the case to regulate NIL even though the highest court in the land already ruled that it cannot be "limited." Of course we all know it's pay for play and not NIL at all, but that point is moot since if someone wants to pay me a Mil a year to show up once a year and sign autographs for an hour, you can bet your bottom dollar I'll be doing that. If some business thinks that is worth it, who am I to argue? Someone will sue the NCAA about 2 milliseconds after they deny one of the proposed NIL deals and the NCAA will once again get their posteriors handed to them in court.

    My guess is its the attorneys and the plaintiffs (former athletes?) who are negotiating with the NCAA and named conferences regarding "the rules."
     
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  10. Crusher

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    He is exactly right, it cannot really be regulated according the the Supreme Court. What he is leaving unsaid is the above-the-cap but below-the-table bags that could still be dropped by Booster of School Y. Right now with unlimited NIL they aren't necessary, but if somehow NIL is regulated (unlikely) those will pop-up like mushrooms at certain Universities.
     
  11. Gatorrick22

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    They also never ended student athletics nor amateurism is college sports.
     
  12. BA69MA72

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    If your question is serious, the case is House vs NCAA. The plaintiff is Grant House, a former swimmer at Arizona State (actually, the answer is the same even if your question isn’t serious :)
     
  13. G8R92

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    He thought he was still posting on THFSG. ;)
     
  14. Crusher

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    But on July 1 that will end the second a check is cut directly from the University to a player for their "NIL" value o_O
     
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  15. Gatorrick22

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    This rogue NCAA must be stopped before they force all colleges to commit a federal crime. :eek::rolleyes:

    Or... it might just still be a state crime in Florida.

    And what about other collegiate sports athletes? What do they get?
     
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    Not if the NIL deal isn't through the school. If someone doesn't want to give the gymnast 500K they don't have to.
     
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  17. paidinfull

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    I agree, but I think he's talking about the settlement, which would be how the school's portion is split up. In that case, I agree with him and don't see how the school itself could show favoritism towards mens sports, even though they're the breadwinners. I think the school's direct contribution to the athletes will have to be split up like scholarships for title ix purposes.
     
  18. Crusher

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    Of course, but the settlement is defining that the schools will "share" revenue (IOW pay employees) with the athletes beginning 7/1/25. If the school discriminates between athletes of different sexes (they will) I can't see how it won't initiate a massive Title IX fight.