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National Archives releases thousands of JFK assassination records

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  1. OklahomaGator

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    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...eases-thousands-of-jfk-assassination-records/

    "The National Archives has released thousands of records related to the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy.

    The release of 12,879 new files, the largest dump since 2018, comes nearly six decades after Kennedy was shot and killed in Dallas, becoming the fourth U.S. president to have been assassinated while in office. President Biden ordered the documents’ release earlier in the day ahead of a Thursday deadline."


    I wonder what new information, if any, is contained in these records. I guess we need to wait until @cocodrilo has a chance to go through them.
     
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  2. ursidman

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    Interested in what @cocodrilo makes from this info.
     
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  3. cocodrilo

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    Oh, there will be plenty of items of interest to JFK researchers. But we already know enough about this release, don't we? 30 percent of the documents continue to be withheld for reasons of "national security."

    Thanks a lot, Joe. You're afraid of them too, aren't you? Do you even know why? I think it was FDR who said we have nothing to fear but fear itself.
     
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  4. cocodrilo

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  5. ursidman

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    Hard to imagine how it is still about national security after lo these 60 years.
     
  6. cocodrilo

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    Don't you trust the CIA?
     
  7. duggers_dad

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    People: “Government lies!”

    Same People: “Why would they lie about Ukraine ? WTF ???”
     
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  8. enviroGator

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    And zombies... we all need to be afraid of zombies.
     
  9. cocodrilo

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    "They're coming to get you, Barbara!"
     
  10. Trickster

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    After reading a couple J.B. Turner books, no.
     
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  12. cocodrilo

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    I'm still downloading the first listed zip file. Only 17 minutes left.
     
  13. cocodrilo

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    Apparently Joseph Backes has a faster or a lot bigger computer. This from another forum:

    Okay, this is the breakdown as fast as I could do it.

    10,096 are CIA

    9 are DIA

    8 are Dept of State

    1,573 are FBI

    1 is given the RIF 135-10005-10170, though it's really 180-10143-10135. This is really an HSCA document, handwritten, from Ed Lopez. 7 pages .

    253 are NSA

    169 are Church Committee

    1 is ONI - 173-10011-10178

    118 are RIFs starting with 176, I think these are National Security files from the JFK Library.

    26 are from the LBJ library

    46 are from the Rockefeller Commission

    2 are 179 which are Dept of Justice

    603 are HSCA

    11 are NARA files

    287 are Dept of Defense

    1 from the Office of the Secretary of Defense - 195-10005-10027

    3 are 197, the Pentagon telecommunications center

    274 are Army, Califano papers

    11 are from the Joint Chiefs of staff.

    Joe*

    *Not Joe Biden
     
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  14. Spurffelbow833

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    I think Cocodrilo (or I suspect whoever ghosted his SN after he died years ago) has concluded that Trump did it.
     
  15. Spurffelbow833

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    Jesus. I stand corrected. But I learned everything I needed to know by watching CNN's hit piece on Jim Garrison last week. There seems to be a really strong groundswell of neoOswaldism on the left now, which is consistent with their raging allergy to conspiracy theories in general.
     
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  16. WarDamnGator

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    Is that true, @cocodrilo? Are you dead?
     
  17. cocodrilo

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    That's fake news. I'm no more dead than John Kennedy Jr. is.
     
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  18. uftaipan

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    That’s relatively dead.
     
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  19. cocodrilo

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    But I heard that John-John was supposed to show up in Dallas (at the latest assassination anniversary?) and would be Donald Trump's next running mate. Or something like that. It's all so confusing.
     
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  20. cocodrilo

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    Last night CNN reported an important find in these documents. The document says that Oswald saw a movie about an attempted presidential assassination not long before the shooting, and that helped inspire that lone-nut Commie to shoot JFK.

    Actually this "important find" is an old story. The movie was "Suddenly," starring Frank Sinatra as the would-be assassin. Who knows if Oswald saw it? Anyway, as I recall Sinatra had the movie shelved after the assassination and for years it was unavailable. Spoiler alert: Sinatra was going to shoot the president when he got off a train in the town of Suddenly (I forget what for). So what happens? Word leaked out (I forget how) and the train didn't even stop.