Musk, Kennedy disagree on weight-loss drugs

Not all that surprising. I can see Kennedy facing serious obstacles to confirmation not just from Democrats who oppose his flaky anti-vax position but also from Republicans bought and paid for by the food-industrial complex and the pharmaceutical industry. Keep in mind it will only take four dissenting Republicans to block his confirmation as HHS Secretary.
https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/industry-detail/A09/2024
Food and Ag PACs Largely Supporting Republicans - Farm Policy News

 

Tough call here - they're both scientific experts on the subject.

We need another total expert to, ahem, weigh in and break the tie. I know- let's ask that morbidly obese guy that eats nothing but hamburgers, and see who's bribing him more what HE thinks!



^ Yup. This is the current state of leadership on health care in these here United States of America. MAGA.

 

And this matter’s?

 

If confirmed, RFK would be the head of billions of dollars under the Department of Health and Human Services, including the FDA. He would help set both food and drug policies for the country. So RFK and "President Musk" disagreeing on a drug policy matters. How will the settle their differences? Do they?

 

Hopefully President Musk and Vice President Kennedy can find a way to really help the American people, like Donald Trump has always wanted.

 

If people want to take weight loss drugs it should be between them and their DR. Insurance shouldn't pay for it though.

When a person chooses to be over weight, then they choose to pay for weight loss prescriptions if they want them. It's the whole "when you choose your actions, you choose the consequences" thing.

 

Yeah, let’s get Fauci back as a scientific expert. He did such a tremendous job before and during the China Flu.

Like RFK Jr. or not, at least things will get more robustly debated, and unlike Biden admin, decisions with him don’t seem to go to the highest bidder for personal compensation.

Personally, if he can just clean up FDA, I would be happy.

 

I'd be interested to hear you explain what Fauci did wrong. Pretty sure you're just parroting the MAGA blame-mongers who need to scapegoat someone in light of the failure of their liar leader.

But give it a shot please - it should be interesting.

This is a pretty interesting one. What decisions did Biden make that "went to the highest bidder" for Biden's "personal compensation" ?

Pretty sure you're just.....babbling out some words that make you feel good here. But if you'd explain it please, that would be interesting. Go ahead, please.

 

Except that’s medically incorrect. There are situations where the “eat less, move more” doesn’t work. Besides, from a cost/benefit analysis obesity related issues are far more expensive to treat.

 

RFKJ will see the light as soon as President Musk induces The Steroid Riff. He is just momentarily confused about injected synthetics. It’ll all “work out.”

 

My wife has PCOS and hypothyroidism and has had trouble losing weight ever since she had our son, and she eats extremely healthy. She was on Ozempic before she had her weight loss surgery because it helped with both her weight loss and also regulating her elevated glucose levels due to her PCOS. Kennedy is an f’ing moron who has no clue what he’s talking about. It’s not always as simple as “herp derp, eat healthier.”

 

Incorrect.

Obesity is a choice 99.9% of the time. Part of the issue with heath care is not holding people responsible for unhealthy choices.

 

It's also true that, as I understand it, you can't just go your doctor and say "I'm fat, I want Ozempic, I want my insurance to pay for it", you have to have a medical reason, like diabetes, to qualify for insurance. People on Ozempic just for weight loss are probably paying out of pocket. Donzo is yelling at the clouds...

 

if weight loss drugs lower risk of heart attack, sleep apnea, blood sugar levels, and multiple other health benefits that significantly reduce the long term cost of care, does that matter? oh yeah, thye lower your grocery bill so your eggs will be cheaper, that seems to be important to some

in case you didn't know, things like addiction and obesity are diseases just like heart disease and arthritis. nobody chooses to be obese or to be addicited anymore than they choose to have arhtritis

 

Ozempic has a ton of positive side effects that are being studied ... like reducing risk of organ damage and inflammation. It also is reported that it cuts down the urge of other addictive bad habits like drinking and drug use ... but America's health system is based on reactive treatment rather than preventative care, so it's unlikely to make much of a difference since people have a hard time getting access to it through insurance.

 

ozempic originally was developed as a type 2 diabetes drug- one of the side affects(if you can call it that) was that people lost weight when taking it. Big pharma probably makes more money when it is taken for type 2 diabetes. If taking it helps a person who struggles with their weight to lose weight you would think that health insurance companies would want those results to happen, as healthy people take less drugs.

 

It's like a $1000 for a 3 month supply if you pay out of pocket, which is probably why insurance rarely covers it unless you have diabetes ... generic companies say they can make it for as little as 89 cents a month, but they can't until the patent runs out. It will be better in the future when generic companies can sell it. The Patent is supposed to expire in 2032, but they play games with those sometimes and can extend them ...

Novo Nordisk's Ozempic can be made for less than $5 a month: study

 

pretty shameful - I am hopeful RFK can make a difference in getting the cost of these drugs down to a reasonable price