Multiple casualties reported in downtown Louisville shooting

Are we talking about the semantics of saying guns are not part of the problem vs. saying guns are not the only problem?

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I think there are plenty examples of both of these nuances.

 

what % of body armor worn by LEO is plated armor?

do the standard issue vests stop handguns that do not have special ammo?

if rifles are the problem, is there a reason one would need a rifle in an urban setting?

 

Can you provide an example of anybody in here suggesting that guns are not part of the problem?

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Not a majority, no - most just say it’s the wrong people having guns.
However, I do remember a poster (still active) who posted a few years back that some level of dead kids was just the price we pay for the 2A. (or words to that effect).

 

I just did.

 

I would say we have a gun permitting problem. We need to return to the whole well regulated militia constitutional thing and make gun ownership a privelege for those willing to pay for extensive background checks and training like what is required throughout Europe. Easier to get a gun than a driver's license.

 

If only there was something in common between the 2 situations....

 

I think you guys are providing an example of the "not the only problem" phrasing that I referred to above. I think the nuance is significant if we're going to have an honest discussion of the topic. Perhaps @Swamplizard could clarify. @Swamplizard, do you think guns are in any way shape or from an ingredient in the problems related to the mass shooting incidences that we have in this country?

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and the sane, responsible ones are unwilling to agree to common sense solutions to stop the idiots from having guns

 

Why? I know that you understand a holistic approach is needed. (Stricter laws, better mental health care etc)

Why not discuss all of it?

 

Wait did I just get called out by a MOD? you broke one of your own golden rules?

Ok well I am good with it but none of my firearms are going to unlock themselves from my safe and shoot anyone or anything. I think people with mental health issues are going to find a way be it a stick or a knife or a firearm

 

Instead of repealing it, just get 5 people in black robes capable of properly interpreting it again.

 

I think he was defending you and giving you a chance to clarify, and mods are absolutely allowed to tag a person.

 

Tilly I was trying to be funny sorry

As far as guns I think they make it easier knives are dirty clubs are dirty rifles and pistols make it easy but no one can fix insane

 

I think a lot of parents would be relieved beyond words to hear a breaking report of "an active stick wielder" at their child's school than the current alternative.

 

I've got that t-shirt.

 

When I was a child a person kidnapped a child and beheaded him he didn't use a pistol or a rifle. Anyone know who that was?

 

Sorry, but where exactly in his statement did you see him say "not the only problem"? He said, "No we don't have a gun issue we have an insanity issue..."

I understand giving people benefits of doubt, but he very clearly said there is no gun problem without any additional qualifiers.