Moderna's mRNA Skin Cancer Vaccine Shows Durability for 3 Years

Yeah giving up an hour to get jabbed is too high a sacrifice not to die sooner and cause other people to die sooner.

 

Because cancer is real and Covid is fake?

 

“The proper function of man is to live, not to exist. I shall not waste my days trying to prolong them. I shall use my time”

Jack London

I read this many years ago and it has stayed with me everyday.

 

Because if you get Covid and you are otherwise healthy, you have over a 99.5% chance of not only surviving, but basically being back to normal in a weak. Get Cancer and your getting some combination of surgery, chemo, radiation, and immunotherapy. You won’t be back to normal in a week. And in most types of cancer you have a far less than 99.5% chance of survival.

As g8trjax said; They are not in the same universe.

 

Interestingly while younger generations may be spending less time outdoors they (women more so than men) actually are developing skin cancer especially melanoma than previous generations thanks to tanning salons.
Tanning beds in the hot seat as skin cancer rates jump
Incidence of melanoma has increased dramatically in last four decades, new study finds
Dangers of Indoor Tanning | Southern Cancer Center

 

You should reconsider your sacrifices if you miss them and would still enjoy them.

You sound like me in that you spent most of your youth in the sun and didn’t burn. My dermatologist is a cancer specialist and he told me that most of my damage is from my youth. He told me that with proper precautions that there is no reason that I shouldn’t continue to do whatever I wanted. Hats, good quality sunscreen, and LS sun shirts when possible. Had my first surgery over 20 years ago. Used to go to derm every 6 months. Now I’m annual. Haven’t had a surgery in four years. Had two biopsies since last surgery. One was negative, one was cancer but the biopsy had clean margins and didn’t have to follow up.

I still fish, golf, and go to our beach condo. Grandson just started t-ball this fall. I don’t plan on missing spring games.

Not trying to be pushy, but letting you know what my doc said and it has worked for me.

 

Never got how this industry got so big. The warning signs have been around for years.

 

So a vaccine is not worth avoiding a 1 in 200 risk of Covid death (your numbers)?

 

I thought the issue with MRNA vaccines is that they change your DNA to that of a lizard, implants 5G, and stops your heart?

Why would any of the concerns change because the mRNA is targeted at a different disease?

In all seriousness it’s fascinating they saw success against a type of cancer. But skin cancer only claims 2000 U.S. lives per year and obviously is NOT contagious. So not sure I’m following your logic about vaccines compared to something that killed >1m Americans. I assume this cancer vaccine treatment would be aimed at people at high risk or even diagnosed previously. The exciting thing is more of the prospect that they can target other diseases/cancers. Basically get a vaccine for whatever you are “high risk” for.

 

I actually think that is where they tried it first many years ago. Covid was a diversion which happened to work.

BioNTech | The History of BioNTech - The Road to a New Era of Immunotherapy 


BioNTech was founded on the idea of using mRNA to activate the immune system against a patient’s individual tumor – an approach that we believe can also be tailored to target several kinds of diseases.

Developed the first vaccines using non-nucleoside modified RNA for personalized cancer therapies targeting a patient’s unique tumor, with the first patient being dosed in a clinical trial in 2012.

 

I thought it was against one of the avian flus that fizzled out before they could actually test the vaccine against it?

But you are correct in the broader sense. mRNA as a technology was around for years before COVID, and it was definitely discussed as a prospective tool against cancer.

 

The chicken pox vaccine is another case. Very few children died of chicken pox but the week to ten days that kids were home sick really impacted their parents(mainly women) ability to work. The economic benefit is enormous. I suspect Covid was the same.

 

For me, no it’s not. I’m very healthy and rarely get sick. I have high confidence in my immune system.

I was not eager to take it at the beginning because it really had not been tested well. After I saw several of my family and friends reactions I was less eager. For me, it was probably more dangerous to take it than the danger of being sick for a few days. But I would not stop anyone who wanted to get it for their own reasons from doing so. Likewise I do not want anyone telling me, or trying to force me to take it.

 

Thank you for the encouragement. I spent so much time in the sun unprotected and my surgery day (along with the aftermath) was so miserable, I was afraid that was just the tip of the iceberg. I likely overreacted thinking additional sun exposure would trigger a never ending series of cancer episodes.

 

Not if it can injure your heart, bring your cancer out of remission, or risk the rarity of being paralyzed. The list of injuries is long and distinguished. And then there is the possibility of death. Again, what percentage of the population will be getting or have received the Fall booster? I don't know of anyone. Not even my parents in their early 70's. Public opinion has flipped and people will be very leery of any new vaccine.

 

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It’s a tough balance and I’m not sure anyone really knows the answer. After years of skin cancers my dad turned into a hermit and when he did get outside he covers himself up to the point of discomfort. If you can get him outside at all to walk he will still want to be covered up even at 6-7pm in the summer. He is now getting frail and has bone density issues and I tend to think a little Sun vitamin D would be good. At the same time his skin is now in such bad shape, it hardly even heals, so I can understand the desire to avoid additional exposure.

I suspect most of the damage to skin come in early years but I can’t say current exposure has zero effect.

 

At this point I’m done trying to convince people one way or the other, but it is curious to think that somehow people think the risk of serious side negative effects of a vaccine is more than 1 in 200 and there is nothing at all to point to anything close to that.

I usually try to go with what the best evidence says. In the early phases of Covid I didn’t lock myself in the house because where I lived the risk of death from Covid was comparable to dying in a car wreck. At the same time I would take reasonable precautions and avoid crowded indoor places. Same with vaccines. I try to look at the odds of benefits and odds of side effect, and the risk benefit ratio of Covid vaccine seems extremely high. The risks may be marginally higher than some other vaccines, but the benefits are higher, as Covid can be much more serious disease than many, such as the flu. I can’t think of many infectious diseases that have killed a million people in the US for a long time.

Obviously the benefit to risk benefit ratio of a cancer vaccine, post cancer removal, will be very high. Presumably at some point they will develop a cancer vaccine, possibly MNRA, that will be given pre cancer. I wonder how widely that will be accepted? The HPV vaccine has lead to a measurable decrease in cervical cancer but it’s no where near 100% taken in young people, as far as I know.

 

Not to mention clotting issues many have had post covid vaccine.

 

I think many is a poor word choice. Extremely rare would be more accurate.