Missouri may have executed an innocent man today

The glove fit!

 

I agree with this. I consider the death penalty immoral for the same reason I oppose abortion. Humans should not decide the life or death fate of other humans.

Morality aside, I like sas’s idea because it is actually better justice. Let the animals eat their own. Extra cameras in these prisons would make for a hell of a Reality Show.

 

I agree in theory. The problem I always run into is we as a society better be absolutely correct about who the monsters are, and far too often our justice system results in incorrect outcomes that we then double, triple, or even quadruple down on in the name of the process. It’s particularly egregious for those who lack the resources to work the rules of the system. Short of something like being caught in the act on a perfectly clear and irrefutable video or an unsolicited and uncoerced confession of premeditated or egregiously sick murder in open court knowing that the result is death, I just don’t have the confidence that we actually get it right often enough for me to be actually ok with it in practice.

 

I oppose the death penalty in almost every case. That aside,, I think this one is different from the OP. DNA evedence did show investigators DNA on evedence, but apparently also showed the accused or did I read a couple articles wrong yesterday?

So unless the investigator did it, its still a guilty man.

This one seems a bit more like just posturing by the defense in some of what I read.

Also the family didn't feel he was innocent. They still wanted a life sentence. They just opposed the death penalty.

 

I don't think he said we treat them different. He just said we film it. And yes, some of them act like animals. Sad but true.

 

Agree.

 

Putting people in cages will do that. Everyone posting on this forum is just as capable of committing the acts of almost anyone in prison under the right circumstances. Sad but true.

 

The prosecutor that convicted him helped his appeal. Another person confessed to the crime. DNA exonerates him.

So of course, conservative politicians and judges satisfy their bloodlust and murder him because they can.

And some of you think that illegal immigrants in this country are going to be herded into camps and tattooed with an ID number just to deport them? How naive.

 

I don’t believe that I said I would watch. I loathe Reality shows. Total waste of time. My point was, and I doubt that you will differ from this, that the shows would be wildly popular. That’s just not my kind of popular.

As to your other point, once people have shown themselves to be animals, then I tend to suspend their rights to “humane” treatment as you put it. I would put rapists, child molesters, mass and serial killers into this category. I think it is foolish to spend money and put corrections officers in harms way just to defer the inevitable. I’m not advocating leaving them out in the elements with no food, or medical care. I’m just not for the cost or risk of protecting them from each other.

 

I was referring to the acts that landed them in cages. And no "everyone" isnt "just as capable" of some of the evil things that some people do.

 

Wait. Which case are you talking about? The OP from a 18 months ago, or the current one that happened yesterday? (They seem to be quite different).

 

For those making this political, it should be noted that a Democratic prosecutor convicted him and a Republican governor stayed his execution for 6 years.

None ot that is overtly material to the case, but it isnt as some are trying to craft it.

 

FWIW, the Democrats quietly removed opposition to the death penalty from their platform at the convention. Barbarism is bipartisan.

 

The pro-life party again proves that if you are a dark-skinned adult and not a white baby, it's open season on your life.

 

A democrat prosecuted him and sought the death penalty.

A Republican governor than blocked the execution for 6 years.

Just sayin'

 

You would have been better off just . . .

 

While I'm not totally against the death penalty, I do believe it needs to be very rare and only in cases where their is ABSOLUTELY no doubt of guilt.

Like a guy who shoots up a school.