Migrants Credit Cards

Or just enforce the laws we have. I know, crazy right? Biden didn't have to reverse those EO's by trump, but he wanted to and now a huge percentage of the country realizes the immigration issue is a huge issue. You are trying to make this in some way compared to inequality? That isn't a good argument at all.

 

We have over 1.6 million waiting asylum hearing claims, and nowhere near enough judges to hear them. Our current laws state anyone, entering from anywhere, can claim asylum within a year of entering and then be here legally while they are waiting their claim hearing. The new law would address much of this issue by hiring more judges and allowing for in place hearings for those who don't enter at legal ports. Things Biden can't do legally by XO.

Biden is currently enforcing the asylum laws. The bill would change them. An XO cannot.

 

I’m not familiar with this credit card plan but if we’re attempting to feed them this might be more cost effective than setting up food shelters & distribution for 10s of thousands.
Agree our country desperately needs to address our border crises. It’s disappointing maga leaders are influenced by Inmate P01135809 to wreck the border deal.

 

Simple. Require any asylum seekers remain in Mexico until their hearing. Done. Easy as that.

 

This feels like the silly panic when they did away with food stamps and gave people ebt cards. My hope this is something similar to wic payments on a card which can only be used for wic items.

 

Yeah, pretty much all benefits come on cards now. I even had a phone company refund come on a debit card once.

 

You mean the humanitarian disaster that was remain in Mexico? Mexico has no infrastructure to handle thousands of people waiting on that side of the border for their hearing. What do you think would happen if the number of people waiting at a border crossing reaches 50,000? 100,000? Or more?

Because Mexico doesn't have the infrastructure, and the program creates conditions for humanitarian abuses, Mexico would object to the policy being reinstated. Who knows what would happen next, but do we really want a light shining on humanitarian abuses that we are causing? It's one thing during a global pandemic, but that's in our rearview mirror. What happens if our SCOTUS says remain in Mexico is legal, but Mexico wins a world court case?

It's not that simple. Especially if and when the humanitarian problems get out of control, and there are now tens of thousands of immigrants waiting in Mexico who say enough is enough. What could we do if they all decided to say eff it and crossed the border at the same time? Which is bound to happen. Any dam can only withstand so much pressure before it cracks.

 

I think EBT cards have replaced paper vouchers for WIC in most states. Even when paper vouchers were used the food items that could be purchased through WIC were much more restrictive than foods that could be purchased with food stamps/SNAP.

 

It is that simple. If migrants realize they won't get to stay in the US but instead have to wait in Mexico, then the number of people trying to come to the US will most likely greatly diminish. We can't help everyone. And no one cares if Mexico wins a "world court case" lol. You just don't like the solution to the problem. It's an easy solution and the right one. At least now you know Biden can solve this issue tomorrow if he wanted to, but he doesn't want to. Neither do the Republicans. Both sides are full of crap. The more people realize this, the better. But we both know you are extremely partisan, so you can't bring yourself to admit it.

 

The wall didn't and doesn't work. Mass deportations didn't and doesn't work. Remain in Mexico didn't work the first time either. What evidence do you have that says the desperate from around the globe won't try and make it to Mexico because they might have to wait a little longer? None.

Meanwhile, remain in Mexico was absolutely a humanitarian nightmare. How long would it take for the immigrants to realize that if they all crossed at the same time, no way could BP catch them all?

 

That's why we need to build a wall, so IF 50k-100k of migrants try to cross they won't be able to. Walls do work. It's why you have them on your house. It's why banks have them, it's why the Palestinians can't get to Egypt because there is a wall to keep them out. It's not complicated. So at least you agree Biden has the ability to fix this but doesn't want to. It's a start.

 

You know, ladders exist South of our border.



There are also pedestrian bridges in crossing areas like Nogales that if thousands of people all decided to rush at the same time, our BP would be overwhelmed. The people would likely spill into the auto lanes, which would be a mad rush as well. Only way to stop them would be to shoot them.



A coordinated effort at the same time wouldn't that difficult for the immigrants to do. And there is no way we would be able to catch them all if they rushed the official entry area at the same time those willing to climb the wall were doing so. Just simply not enough resources. Well, not unless Congress Acts and appropriates more funding, which Biden can't do by XO.

 

Tough to have 100k people climb a ladder at the same time lol. Holy crap, it's like Groundhog day around here. Biden can do it today, but chooses not to. The rest is you trying to say walls don't work while simultaneously living in a house with walls LOL to protect your family. This is next level dumb type of argument. Of course walls prevent people from crossing. Does it work 100% of the time? No. Neither does a bank vault but it doesn't mean banks don't use them. By your logic because people have broken into a bank vault before that should mean banks don't need them. Go tell your local Bank of America and break the bad news to them LOL.

 

The wall around my house is about .1 mile. Not 2000 miles. No, it wouldn't be possible for 100k people to all climb at the same time, but a coordinated effort of people walking across official border areas plus hundreds of people climbing the wall? We don't have the resources to combat it.

All the wall has accomplished to date is billions of dollars spent, and an increase in wall fall injuries. Waiting in Mexico wouldn't work either. Not against a coordinated effort.

 

LOL. We do have resources to protect our borders. If there is an issue we also have the military(only if as you contended was a mass crossing). Oh no, wall fall injuries? That is like the thief suing the jeweler because the thief cut himself breaking the glass. Holy crap are you full of excuses. At least you admit Biden can do something about the border, just chooses not to. The rest is you making up stuff. Waiting in mexico does work. You just don't like it.

 

Bbbbut Robbery

Migrants allegedly snatched phones from 62 women in NYC crime spree: Police

 

This is border apprehensions by year. If we could stop, or even slow down the number, why haven't we in generations?



A few things of note. Trump had a low first year, started climbing his second, and then the largest peak in over a decade his third. Only the pandemic slowed things down. For a year. Wall really did great, didn't it!

Also of note, the absolute lowest numbers on this chart corresponds with the Bracero Program years. It's like when we had a real guest worker program, we had less people crossing the border illegally!

Also, the period between 1983 and 2007 saw larger numbers in most years than current. And we're still a country today. One with currently the best economy of all G7 nations too!

Do we really have the resources to change the above? Maybe, if we militarize the border. But excuse me if I don't my back yard to become a war zone. And is it really worth it, especially if we could institute another Bracero type program and possibly get numbers back to 1960 levels? Worth a try, isn't it? Much less expensive than a wall that accomplishes nothing but hurt people; people who we need to pay for their care as well.

 

Wait, I remember when you were saying how great the walls in Israel worked in keeping out terrorists. Did that change? Why is it now Egypt? BTW, how many tunnels have the Egyptians had to destroy on the 8.5 KM border (not completely walled, it should be noted) with Gaza?