Migrants Credit Cards

So is this a thread where we ignore the impact COVID had on global economic decisions or is that only when somebody brings up how Trump is the first President since Hoover to see job totals fall in his 4 years as President?

 

the 4 years from 2017-2020 are dwarfed by 2022 alone, and almost 2021, imagine the same with 2023

 

guest worker visas, oops, that is azcat fans solution.

 

I highly suggest that you look into how a person actually crosses Mexico. The migrants need to navigate a series of Coyotes, figure out which ones won't just rob them and leave them in the desert. Then, the "good ones" will pile you into a boat or a truck often without food or water for days. You then get a "ride" through the territory of several cartels, who each need to be paid not to kill you or steal all of your stuff. Sometimes, they might do it anyway. That might get you to Mexico City. Then the real fun starts. And this is the experience for the people who have about $10k or so to pay these guys. The experience is a lot worse for those who don't. But sure, the wall is more of a deterrent than 7-8 cartels...just to get to Mexico City. Or even registers as any sort of deterrent to people going through that.

 

Some arrive on trains, but Mexico has been cracking down on those hitching rides on them. The IRC, and several other humanitarian organizations also has a large presence at the border, giving migrants food, water, and clothing. Just because a migrant might not look like they just walked hundreds of miles doesn't mean they didn't. As they say, don't judge a book by the cover.

As for 2020, does anybody remember the global pandemic? Title 42 and Remain in Mexico were COVID policies. It's unsure if Biden could enact them now without declaring another pandemic. And I think we all agree the pandemic is over. Remain in Mexico was also an humanitarian disaster, and not a good policy.

Now, let's hypothetically think what would have happened with migrant numbers had 2020 been a "normal" year." Think 2020 would have seen a higher spike than 2019, or would if it been as low as it was? And what would have the 2021 and 2022 numbers look like? The answer is simple. 2020 would have seen the spike rise, and 2021 and 2022 would have still seen a spike, but not as high as the numbers we see. Simply put, the 2020 pandemic pushed a lot of migrants to wait until 2021 or 2022 to come.

And border issues began long, LONG before Obama. It was Reagan, back in 1986, who came up with the amnesty plan. And before than, between WWII and 1963 we had a Bracero Guest Worker program that allowed over 1 million to emigrate into the US, mostly from Mexico. And I ask again, what's worked at slowing undocumented immigrants from coming? Nothing short of the largest recession since the Great Depression and the biggest global pandemic since the Spanish Flu! Everything else has failed?

What worked was the Bracero Program, and to a lesser extend, Reagan's amnesty. That allowed millions of migrants to come out of the shadows and become legal, with legal protections, The problem was Reagan's amnesty didn't allow for any future programs where we could legalize those here already working, and those coming to work. Could have done this in 2007 and again in 2013 with the Gang of 8. But we didn't, and the problem continues. And people are being insane, proposing the same solutions over and over again and hoping for different results this time!

 

Why wouldn't they just fly into the USA or Canada then if its that simple. You can claim asylum at any port of entry.

 

Mexico City is also about 600 miles from the nearest US border crossing. And a 9-10 day walk, at minimum.

 

Yep, none of them realized the danger of going North. They did it anyway, knowing full well the dangers they face and the ridiculousness of trying to get into the US permanently. And no, migrants are not generally flying into Mexico City. The vast majority start in a few towns in the Southern part of the country.

 

Approximately 35% are now granted.

I never said their contribution to the economy qualified them for asylum, only that most are productive while awaiting an asylum determination.

Either we're a Christian nation or we're not. Christians are loudly proclaiming that we are. They need to let their deeds rather then their mouths do the proclaiming.

 

For reference
What Does the Bible Say About Welcoming Strangers?
22 Bible Verses on Welcoming Immigrants
14 Bible Verses on Welcoming the Stranger
Welcoming The Stranger In Our Midst: 10 Bible Verses
33 Bible Verses About Welcoming Strangers (KJV) ✝️ What Does The Bible Say? | Scriptures on Welcoming Strangers

 

Thank you for those. Every time I read Scripture, I am astonished at how seldom many of us fall short of what is commanded of the human family. Why God doesn’t intervene, I do not know. I do know he weeps for us.

 

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A 27-year-old man accused of stealing a Maryland Department of Transportation State Highway Administration truck and going on a rampage, slamming into more than a dozen cars late last week, is an illegal alien.

Flavio Cesar Lanuza was arrested by Maryland State Police and was charged with vehicle theft and first-degree assault, with more charges likely to be filed soon, investigators told WUSA 9.
I blame this on Maryland for not giving out credit cards like NY

 

Just give them guest worker visas .... but no citizenship beyond the normal historical processed followed by "legal immigrants", regardless of their status as asylum seekers. Further, no special accommodations should be made as regards financial needs. Medical needs should be handled only by private charitable organizations ..... and those who have a desire to assist any immigrants with their medical needs can do so via contributions to those charities. There is plenty of wealth in this nation to support such non-profit, charitable programs.

 

What have you done to create border security, have you chipped in higher taxes for ICE or joined a militia to harass border crossers? Its comical how much you guys talk but dont do.

 

I pay my taxes too, and have been writing my Congressman and Senators to pass a Gang of 8 style Bill for years. I also donate to humanitarian aid groups that help migrants. I also don't ask, nor care about the legal status of the people who do my landscaping, take care of my pool, do dishes at local restaurants, etc.