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Mid-season changes can be made if Billy WANTS to...

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by MyakkaGator, Oct 3, 2023.

  1. It's been a while but I wanted to drop this thought on you and see where you're at on this:

    Let's go back to 2005. Our offense was anemic . Urban came to the realization that his offense wasn't going to work exactly like it did at Utah. So what did he do during the bi-week? He swallowed his pride and made some serious adjustments; he incorporated the use of a fullback (Billy Latsko for whom we used a ton from then all the way through 2006) to get the running game going and not going exclusively 5 wide... The result: we upset undefeated georgia

    "Meyer spent the bye week retooling his much-maligned offense -- limiting the use of four- and five-receiver formations and the option -- and the results showed."

    My point is that if a coach really wants to, he can make significant adjustments that he might be reluctant to make, but do so for the betterment of the team to win games.

    Obviously, the changes would be different to address the current challenges but it's still the same principle.

    The question is..
    "Can Billy come to the same realization and swallow his pride, like Urban did, for the betterment of the program?"

    Currently, my answer is No. Hopefully, this changes very quickly.
     
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  2. MarineG8R

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    He doesn't come off as a guy that would make major changes during the season. Likely off season. Good or bad could be up for debate. That's just my impression. I do see a little over analysis on his part.
     
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  3. Mikog8tor

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    maybe too much analytics and not enough flow/feel of the game
     
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  4. sqgator

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    I am pretty certain analytics wouldn’t come up with 3rd down and 8 to run up the middle with 8 guys stacking near the line.
     
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  5. Mikog8tor

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    but what % are you certain? :)
     
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  6. 62gator

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    fwiw,

    https://247sports.com/college/flori...sive-coordinator-kentucky-wildcats-217402866/
     
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  7. eastowest

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    Problem is Meyer had a very good OC to make those changes
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  9. antny1

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    We won the game and anyone that offered constructive criticism got blasted but that is what was so disappointing about the 2nd half against Tennessee. They were reeling and the Swamp was roaring. Instead of continuing to build on that we turtled up and tried to hold on instead. It worked this time but that isn't going to cut it in the SEC.
     
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  10. bullish

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    No. You are right. We are trying to be something UF will never be a run first team. Even Mark Stoops knows a good OC when he sees it. You can still run if you mix it up. Their RB Davis run amuck due to us playing deep zone to take away the passing threat and not lining up with seven men near the line of scrimmage. Take what a defense gives you and what your offense can do consistently and score. Just moving the chains twenty yards and eating up time is a loser’s foil. Nothing but ego getting in the way to winning. Trust the process! Even if we beat Vandy and struggle to score, there are certain lines by the administration that have to be delivered. It is not a sure win. The fun and excitement of Gator football is in the twilight zone!
     
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  11. gatorPUNX

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    Agree

    I am not so certain. A glaring flaw for Napier in year 1 was his in game management, which continued right into the Utah game, and reared itself again against Kentucky. Just unfathomable mistakes which gave both Utah and Kentucky free possessions and subsequently scored from.

    Keep on loading the roster... there are flashes of brilliance from the young players, but these mistakes whether penalty or game management are directly on Napier and cannot continue to pile up.
     
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  12. bullish

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    How about no urgency to score to start the game!
    No let’s begin the game and see what they do. Ssshh, we are always behind the eight ball due to us trying the establish the run game. Get behind and us still trying to eat up clock. This is not winning football.
     
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  13. gator34654

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    He can say what he wants, SS has made him a very wealthy man whether he stays or goes. He speaks of humility and that he's his own worst critic, if that were true he would fire himself as OC and hire someone who is actually competent.

    Just a quick edit, no way is he going to hire someone in mid season, so this year he could have one of the assistant coaches do that, and heck, he doesn't even have to reveal that the change has been made. However next year it is a must otherwise he will be like DM who failed to fire Grantham and Hev and thus be on his way out.
     
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  14. tegator80

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    All I am going to place out here is...

    He WILL get that his system is flawed with him being OC, whether he muddles through the season or not, and he can play in earnest Max Brown because he at least provides hope that may be starved out of this season (Miller is a lesser Mertz) and then take a chance that his recruiting haul remains, or he can take a potentially significant hit in the class (mainly the WRs and TEs) and remediate for the next year or two (most likely). OR...he can "stay the course" in whatever fashion he determines and he will likely be "Dead Man Walking" beginning next season. I don't say that with any vitriol, I am merely seeing what this level of sport involves and this isn't going to work well, except for a proverbial "Hail Mary" touchdown pass. But that is for the end of the season and not now.
     
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  15. TJtheGator

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    Huh?
     
  16. ThePlayer

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    The defense sure isn't helping.

    Teams with the most negative fumble recovery margin to date:
    Arizona State -4 (21% recovery rate), Texas A&M -3.5 (29%), Notre Dame -3.5 (29%), Kansas -3 (31%), Arkansas State -2.5 (0%), Rutgers -2.5 (14%), West Virginia -2.5 (14%), James Madison -2.5 (27%), Florida -2.5 (31%), Illinois -2.5 (31%)
     
  17. volungator

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    Well said. Kinda like UT's Champions of Life trophy
     
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  18. Gatorrick22

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    Have been using 4 and 5 wideouts? That's rare for sure... But I wouldn't mind mixing an matching our game plan up a bit... By the way we don't have freshman Tim Tebow on our team... but we will have the next best thing IN THE 2024 SEASON. So, the spread option is out of the question... for now.

    So, that leaves us with the only change that could drastically change our season, on offense, this year. And that is to run a 20... 21... 22... personnel sets pieces, becasue we don't have a real fullback on our team.
     
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  19. volungator

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    Boom.
     
  20. gator34654

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    I don't expect much change this year except for a few minor changes for the hay is in the barn. Big changes comes during off season. I think (and could be very wrong) he will begin a candidate search for a new OC and probably will have some agreement with that guy prior to season ending. That guy, must have the ability to utilize the skills of our QB recruit and speedy wr's. In this way, BN can tell these recruits who the guy is and what the plans are for utilizing them next season. I think that will not only excite and keep these recruits but will also help prevent top playmakers from abandoning ship.
     
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