Meet the Pensacola English teacher waging war on books

Yes, I would by no means make her the figurehead for people taking on wokeness in education.

Terrible example.

 

I would look at this way... If books that reference marriage and dating of all forms are completely off limits, then okay. But to say you can still have books that reference marriage and dating between some people,.but not other people, is clearly discrimination.

 

The line is drawn by the trained professionals charged with providing safe and valid educational materials.

 

Conservatives have done quite enough to screw up public education, all in the name of education "reform."

 

Does the parent make a list of books their child is not allowed to check out and take with them? I seem to recall that we may have had free riding time where we'd be allowed to grab a book off the shelf and read for a period of time without actually checking it out. Maybe I'm mis-remembering, but how does the parental opt out work in that situation?

Seems to me like parents having a right to opt out is pretty key to a lot of these discussions (also sex ed) and doesn't seem to be raised in most articles I read.

 

Im sorry if I missed it. Which post addressed where the line should be?

 

Thank you. That seems like an honest, fair answer. What about the ones that deal with rape or child molestation etc?

It seems that some here, (Those avoiding my question) just think it should be a free for all.

 

Did not answer that because its impossible. It's stupid to even ask. On the mistaken presumption that the query is in good faith, listen to this to understand the futility of "line drawing". From 2018

Back in 2008 Facebook began writing a document. It was a constitution of sorts, laying out what could and what couldn’t be posted on the site. Back then, the rules were simple, outlawing nudity and gore. Today, they’re anything but.


How do you define hate speech? Where’s the line between a joke and an attack? How much butt is too much butt? Facebook has answered these questions. And from these answers they’ve written a rulebook that all 2.2 billion of us are expected to follow. Today, we explore that rulebook. We dive into its details and untangle its logic. All the while wondering what does this mean for the future of free speech?

Transcript there as well
Post No Evil

 

Incorrect. The line is drawn by the a combination of them and the parents.
Otherwise why even have PTA meetings or allow parental input.

Teachers are not a be all, end all.

 

A parent can revoke THEIR children’s library privileges at any time. The systems are tied to student numbers.

 

Imagine getting an off topic for literally addressing the topic. Lazy post ratings rule!

 

Did you even read the main post? It is an English teacher who is pushing this. In your words, why is she the be all, end all in this instance? Because you are correct, it should be a joint thing and many if not all school districts actually do allow parental input. It happens all of the time at board meetings, etc, but now this particular group wants only their input measured and no one else's.

Like others have already said, there are parental opt outs allowed, but these parents want books they don't like to not be allowed for any kid at all, what about the other parent's input whose line is a little different? That is why when one starts banning books for their "side", it then starts to come from the other side where religious books start to get banned and none of it is a good outcome.

 

You're correct, it was meant to be a come on man and thanks for letting me know. It was corrected for your lazy posting assumptions.

 

I was responding to a specific post saying that the educators were the ones to make that call.

Again, I ask...where is the line? Who decides. I am asking an honest question here.

 

In fairness, I assumed nothing. You literally clicked "off-topic". Explanation noted however, All good brother.

 

No, you’re not asking an honest question. That, or you don’t like the answer. Professionals in the area of curriculum and media specialists make that determination with public input. If you as a parent don’t agree with their decisions you have the option of blocking YOUR CHILD from using the library.

You conservatives certainly like to mind other people’s business.

 

This "conservative" called the lady a quack.
The honest question is WHERE IS THE LINE? You have no answer so you resort to politics.

One more time. Is there a line?

You act like any question is an attack on educators. I was raised by one, and married one. I love teachers and educators.
...But they are not the end all when it comes to every decision for kids in school.

 

Ironic because this is what the right always complains about, with some degree of legitimacy, the notion that everyone always has to feel safe and anything offensive to anybody must be suppressed. But they are doing the exact same thing.

What is really ridiculous is all these kids have the whole internet at their fingertips 24/7, and they are raging about library books.