Measles Outbreak at Ft. Lauderdale Elementary SChool

If I recall correctly, he doesn't even believe that germs exist. What is there to debate? (And one has to wonder where in the hell he went to school. Oh, wait, he calls for home schooling. That must be the answer.)

 

Of course I believe germs exist. We’re literally made of trillions of them. You ? Probably more. I just don’t hold to the medieval and pseudo-scientific belief that people are deadly disease vectors. Oh, and homeschool kids are typically smarter that their government-inculcated peers.

 

Well, that's good news if you're right. I can stop worrying about whether some lady of the evening is "disease free" or not. She ain't no vector for whatever she's got.

 

Yep, goes for so-called STD’s too. Not that I think promiscuity is without deeper costs.

 

Damn, what ignorance can do to a family! I had a cousin who divorced her husband because she claimed he gave her a venereal disease. BS!

 

Gateway drugs be lit

 

You can imagine the wonders belief in contagion has done for relationships.

 

So is cognitive dissonance.

 

Who didn't see this coming...


Staggering 84 percent of measles cases in major Chicago outbreak linked to Venezuelan migrants, CDC report shows | Daily Mail Online

Some 84 percent of deadly measles cases in a recent major outbreak at a migrant center in Chicago are linked to Venezuelan immigrants, a new CDC report shows.

New information reveals that the spate of 57 cases at the Pilsen migrant shelter can be traced back to a one year-old boy who had only received one of the two vital vaccines.

The majority of the cases — 72 percent — were among unvaccinated people, the CDC said.

 

Guess they need to fire the Surgeon General of Illinois over this one.

 

Why? Did the IL surgeon general suggest they didn’t need to get vaccinated, or that kids exposed to measles could go ahead and go to school anyway? Because these are things the FL surgeon general did. Weird deflection.

Looks like this is a city of Chicago run center, and unsurprisingly it’s not a great place to be. Unvaccinated migrants is definitely an issue that needs attention, unfortunately there isn’t great infrastructure to deliver healthcare in these situations. I assume after the outbreak, a veritable alphabet of different local/state agencies came in and offered vaccines.

 

As someone in the health care field, why would you make excuses for a guy like Lapado? Is the partisan tribal pull so great that you are compelled to do so in spite of your medical training?

 

How hard is it to vaccinate people coming into the country and hold them in quarantine?
Amazing the Florida measles outbreak of what a hand-full of cases caused such a stir yet 57 cases are barely a blip for some.

 

Where did I make excuses for Lapado?
Just curious if an outbreak 9 times the size of the Florida one will call for heads the way it did in Florida.
Likely not as the migrants are a protected class since they were under the “care” of the government.

 

Migrants should absolutely be offered vaccinations, pretty sure full vaccinations are *required* of legal immigrants.

I’d say if these immigrants presented for asylum, they should have been interviewed by the federal govt and offered vaccination then and there. Any status granted should be dependent on vaccination. But not sure the facilities exist to “hold them in quarantine” as you suggest. Isn’t this the crux of the issue? The system is overwhelmed and broken, so corners are being cut, including by those who move here.

I dont think that’s quite the same as a state surgeon general casting doubt on vaccines, or going against pretty standard CDC guidance.

 

Ladapo does not cast doubt on vaccines. Covid shot. Yes. And right now I suspect you are following his guidance which is not the same as the CDC on the Covid Shot. You might be part of the very small group that would give their 6 month old a Covid Shot. But the numbers say you would be part of the group that listens to Ladapo’s guidance and not the cdc.

Sadly the cdc is why the MMR vaccine has seen a decline in acceptance. The good news is that most still give it to their kids.

 

Difference between Lapado and his critics: he’s arguing against the robust recommendations for one more vaccine.