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Looks like Andrew Gillum about to get indicted agin

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by tampagtr, Jun 22, 2022.

  1. orangeblue_coop

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    If he broke the law then he needs to pay the price. That simple, no need for deflections like certain other contingents do.
     
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  2. snatchmagnet

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    Some seriously deep stuff right there. Gonna take me a bit to sift through all that.
     
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  3. wgbgator

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    You are probably thinking a buttocks is a bad surface for snorting coke, you need something flatter.
     
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  4. fubar1

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    Our state dodged a bullet with this clown.

    This potential train wreck was obvious well in advance to anyone who didn’t blindly vote the party line.
     
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  5. kygator

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    Crazy people never think they’re crazy. Sometimes they think they’re Indiana Jones. I’m speaking in generalities if course.
     
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  6. Claygator

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    Wrong. It was seriously under reported, which is what the left wing media does. Censor what hurts their candidate, give massive air time to what does not.

    It's so obvious.

    Fascism. Seriously.
     
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  7. ursidman

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    Yeah, this doesn’t sound good for him. If he did any of these things and it sure reads as if he did, it is good to have him removed from public life.
     
  8. orangeblue_coop

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    Hmm that’s funny, I can think of a very prominent non-left wing media network that does the exact same thing. I doubt you’d ever refer to it as “fascism” when they do it though.
     
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  9. wgbgator

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    Dodged a bullet only to get hit with a howitzer shell
     
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  10. fubar1

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    yeah, an indicted crook hanging with male prostitutes and doing meth is a more favorable politician…only in Libby lala land.
     
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  11. cocodrilo

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    Sometimes it depends on what the lying is about. Albert Osborne aka John Howard Bowen, one of the usual suspects in the JFK assassination, lied so many times to the FBI that the FBI said enough is enough. It quit interviewing him.
     
  12. murphree_hall

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    I heard a lot about it and I watch MSNBC mostly with a little bit of CNN. Rarely watch Fox. MSNBC was pretty harsh on him. Don’t recall anyone sticking up for him or trying to sugarcoat the issue.
     
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  13. tampagtr

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    Wow I just read the allegations. Pretty small bore stuff. Stuff that should be illegal and regularly prosecuted, but would not even be significant in a Republican campaign, although they would cover the the better.Wow I just read the allegations. Pretty small bore stuff. Stuff that should be legal regularly prosecuted, but would not even be significant in a Republican campaign, although they would cover it better.

    This is not 1% of the corruption that goes on a regular campaign, especially a Republican campaign. And it’s not even close to how bad Trump dis all throughout, but especially when he was suckering the idiots after the election.

    The Supreme Court pretty much went the last step to legalizing bribery in the honest services case, but in this case there was a disgruntled donor who would testify
     
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  14. GatorBen

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    You really think depositing a candidate’s campaign contributions in the bank account of a friend’s company, and then having her company use the money to pay the candidate a “salary” for a nonexistent job, happens regularly in political campaigns?
     
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  15. wgbgator

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    I don't know, but as top level//big money corruption is basically legal or unprosecutable, I think we are going to find out about what sort of petty corruption is common in politics, if only in the name of maintaining some facade of legitimacy.
     
  16. tampagtr

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    In effect, yes. All the time. It’s usually covered better with some form of invoicing. The difference here is the donor is likely pissed because he lost close
     
  17. wgbgator

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    In retrospect, he should have just loaned himself a huge sum of money, and used campaign funds to pay it back, which is perfectly legal!
     
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  18. tampagtr

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    Exactly. And that's just one workaround. But he lacked cash or an obvious benefactor, limiting that option. He was relatively new. But the common one is to have some family member incorporate to provide "campaign services" and pay them to GOTV, "design" mailers, etc., paying them a lot of money to do so.

    Gillum was unsophisticated. Then again, DT is blatant and obvious
     
  19. wgbgator

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    Yeah, that's why the people who get convicted are the Corrine Browns of the world, just getting sloppy or lazy over the years. America wont stand for lazy, unsophisticated corruption! (Unless you obtain enough power for it not to matter)
     
  20. tampagtr

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    Exactly. It's not like we are unprincipled! And Gillum is PNG even in the party, so easy shot to take to prove your bona fides as a crusader. Surprised Elias is repping him. A lot of people were pissed at Gillum even before this, before everything came out, because he thought he was going to win and sat on funds to build a post election influence organization. That's what this is really about