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Lock him up! CNN reports Trump to be indicted

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Jun 8, 2023.

  1. VAg8r1

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  3. StrangeGator

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    So you're still not acknowledging that he flagrantly broke the law and probably endangered our national security. That's a good reason for hating him.

    I can't fault anyone for hating him. At this point, I find serious fault for anyone who still likes and supports him. He's a vile, deranged human being. He nearly destroyed this country and you want to give him another chance.
     
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    Frivolous Trump Arguments against the Mar-a-Lago Indictment | National Review

    Meantime, it is clear that the Biden Justice Department did not concoct this case out of whole cloth: The damning evidence comes from (a) documents Trump does not (and could not) deny having, and (b) pro-Trump people, such as his lawyers, who were trying to help him get out of the mess he made for himself, and whom he rewarded by deceiving them and dragging them into his machinations — making it look like they were the ones who misled the investigators when, in fact, they were just acting on what he told them.

    Since Trump’s conduct is indefensible, his apologists have adopted the familiar tactic of making bombastic claims that the prosecution is so fundamentally unfair and un-American that the facts don’t matter. Remarkably, the people asserting these claims never tire of pointing out that Trump is not merely a former president but a current presidential candidate. Putting aside whether he is guilty of crimes (he appears to be, but he’ll get his day in court), what could possibly be more relevant to his fitness for the presidency than the facts of the case?

    Put another way, is the Trump position that, if the Biden Justice Department weren’t prosecuting him, it shouldn’t matter to us whether he was reckless, or worse, in handling the nation’s most critical defense secrets? Is that the Trump position about the Biden family? That if there is some technically legal “consulting arrangement” excuse for the payments, or if there is some other quirk that makes criminal prosecution too difficult, then we should just ignore that the Democratic president’s family took millions of dollars from corrupt and anti-American regimes in exchange for his political influence?

    In any event, the attacks on the prosecution — in lieu of trying to justify Trump’s malfeasance — are very weak. Some, laughably so. I’ll address a number of them in posts over the next couple of days, starting with the most popular one: The claim that classified intelligence reports generated by the Defense Department and U.S. spy agencies, for which the American taxpayer expends hundreds of billions of dollars per year, are somehow the “personal records” of Donald J. Trump under the Presidential Records Act.
     
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  6. Gator715

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    Clearly someone hasn't read the thread.
     
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    so you couldn’t understand what you your reading. Common affliction among Trumpaloons
     
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    All the Trumpers screaming election interference had no problem with Hillary being investigated all throughout the 2016 election season.
     
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  9. WarDamnGator

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    And are currently trying to revive the old Hunter/Joe/Burisma dead investigation for 2024 ...
     
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    All of the people running for the GOP nominations will be forced to talk about and support Trump through all of his indictments instead of talking about themselves. This election is over
     
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  11. rivergator

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    why would the DOJ hate Trump?
     
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    Merrick Garland and Joe Biden have obvious motives. Garland was denied a Supreme Court seat thanks to Trump and Biden is his current arch political rival. Garland answers to Biden and Garland runs the DOJ.

    As far as the rest of the DOJ, same talking points you see from Democrats. Pair that with political groupthink in the Justice Department, and suddenly you've shifted what the entire framework of "fair treatment" looks like in the case of Donald Trump.

    Peter Stzrok and Lisa Page are excellent examples.
     
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    I think there is a reasonable chance that nobody shows. At least just hundreds of nazis as opposed to hundreds of thousands of mouth breathers.
     
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    Ah, Democratic talking points and 'political groupthink.' Sorry, but that's completely empty BS. Why would entire DOJ think the same way? Why, groupthink, of course!

    Otherwise:
    Garland, with all his career accomplishments, is being motivated by personal and petty revenge?
    And we keep hearing how Biden is a semi-brain-dead fool but is somehow masterminding this?

    Claims of hate are just attempts to make anything you disagree seem irrational.
     
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    where is the button to give him money?
     
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    I would expect a modest crowd. Maybe 500 - 1000 lining the streets. Wasn’t Florida one of the leading suppliers of 1/6 cultists? I think they will at least “show up” to try and catch a glimpse of their orange god-idol. Whether there is any effort to disrupt the proceeding is another matter.
     
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    Elba perhaps?
     
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    Even with evidence of prejudice in every sense of the word internally within the FBI and self-preserving motive from the head of the Justice Department and President of the United States... you just write it off as "complete BS."

    And again, it doesn't take a criminal mastermind to appoint someone who hates Trump as the head of your Justice Department and simply get out of his way. I don't think most Republicans are saying that Joe Biden directly ordered this indictment from the top. It's simply what he wanted and he appointed people he liked to give him things that he wanted. It would be very easy for him to come out and condemn or discourage this, he has pardon power. Yet he hasn't. Why? Because he wants this. And if he doesn't want this, he's a coward for refusing to stand up to his own rabid base, even when his arch rival is threatened with spending the rest of his life in prison.
     
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  19. rivergator

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    Let's just start with your first sentence. Where did I do that?
     
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