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Legalized judicial racism…

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by UFLawyer, Jul 10, 2023.

  1. littlebluelw

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    except for the linked article in the OP?
     
  2. UFLawyer

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    How exactly do you define interaction. I saw the dude were in the buffalo hat, walk around and shaking everyone’s hand. On the other hand, at How exactly do you define insurrection. I saw the dude wearing the Buffalo hat, walk around and shaking everyone’s hand. On the other hand, after the George Floyd incident, I saw people setting a police station and police cars on fire, people bashing people in the head with hammers….and a ton more violence.
     
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  3. gator_lawyer

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    Got it. You are illiterate. This is why I usually don't waste time responding to your inane posts. But let's be clear on the facts since you're now deflecting to talking about their lawsuit, rather than fulfilling your promise. I'll quote you exactly:
    "Give me the names and contact information of these victims [of Jim Crow] and some verifiable details on their injuries and I will personally send them checks, up to $5,000.00, and use my time, reputation and influence to get them maximum restitution from the wrongdoers. Post names here so everyone can pitch in, including yourself since you raised this out of obvious concern. Let’s get this done!"

    I gave you three survivors of the Tulsa Race Massacre, three undisputed victims of Jim Crow. We're waiting for you to follow through on your promise. Are you going to help them, or were you lying?
     
  4. mrhansduck

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    I haven't followed those cases, and they haven't gotten as much attention - maybe in part because I don't see lots of people out there defending them or recording songs with them. But these are the first couple arsonists that came up in my search. One guy got six and a half years in prison and the other got almost nine years.

    Jose Felan, 36, gets 6½ years in prison for multiple arsons during George Floyd unrest

    Galesburg man sentenced for arson in Minneapolis during George Floyd protests
     
  5. UFLawyer

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    Really, Substantial evidence of long-term disparate sentencing? Substantial evidence? Give us just 3 verifiable examples. We don’t need the whole list of 100s of thousands. That would just waste paper. Just give us 3. Piece of cake for you.

    Your quest for a person who agreed to pursue removal of a racist judge is comical. It proves nothing, but in the spirit of helping the less fortunate …here ya go

    Court upholds judges' removal for racist, sexist comments

    Louisiana Judge Pressed to Resign After Racist Remarks

    Brooklyn Judge Accused of Making Racist and Homophobic Remarks Resigns

    Cook County judge removed from 'judicial duties' after racist comment, witness tampering accusations

    Now, give us just 3 examples from your “substantial evidence”. Just three is all we need. I gave you 4.
     
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  6. UFLawyer

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    Ooooh. A Mensa has come into the den. Enlighten all of us fools. Provide us your definition of racism without using any sources. No cheating now. I’m literally quivering with anticipation.
     
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  7. mdgator05

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    None of those were impeached. So you provided zero.

    And yes, there is substantial evidence of disparate sentencing. Here is a meta-analysis on the topic:

    Relationship between Race, Ethnicity, and Sentencing Outcomes: A Meta-Analysis of Sentencing Research | Office of Justice Programs
     
  8. mrhansduck

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    And here's the first one I typed in for a non violent (though he was ready for a fight with bear spray) January 6th guy who pled guilty to disorderly conduct and theft of government property. Home detention and probation. He plans to be a cop.

    Trump-appointed judge gives a 'break' to Jan. 6 rioter at sentencing
     
  9. dynogator

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    The unlawful occupation of Congress, with the intention to overthrow an election.
     
  10. UFLawyer

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    I’ll tackle both of those questions. As for the education, it would depend. First, not really sure what you define as a lesser school. Second, when you say lesser school, are you talking about general rankings? If so, who’s rankings. Also, it also depends on what degree you were seeking. For example, Harvard has an engineering school but it’s not ranked very high as far as elite schools are concerned. MIT has a degree in music, but no serious musician would even consider attending. The problem with your hypothesis is that if you are qualified to get in a school, like Harvard or MIT, and you don’t get in, you may get into schools like Stanford, Caltech, University of Michigan or other top schools. Or, you could get a full ride to a school like Georgia Tech. As the recent Harvard decision shows, this cuts both ways. Affirmative action has kept otherwise academically qualified white, and Asian students away from elite schools in order to make room for less academically qualified African-Americans.

    Everyone who is qualified and registered to vote should be able to vote. Any attempts to suppress a person from voting should result in strict criminal punishment. But your question leaves out too many factors and variables. For example, if you were disenfranchised from voting for Joe Biden in 2020, were you injured? If you were disenfranchised from voting from the two leading candidates in 2020, I would argue you weren’t actually injured, because they both sucked. In a local election, if you were prevented from voting for candidate A, and candidate A only got 2% of the vote, were you injured? These are questions, not statements. What I’m suggesting is your question is a little more complicated than yes or no. But, no one should be denied the right to vote, and I don’t think that has happened on any relevant scale for 60+ years.
     
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  11. okeechobee

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    For profit prisons do bother me though...
     
  12. mdgator05

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    Do you not realize what separate but equal K-12 schools in the South during Jim Crow were? In a discussion about Jim Crow and damage from disproportionate quality in schooling, you are off on some tangent about MIT's music program? How about we stick to this: would forcing black people to go to purposefully unequal schools by law from K-12 be the type of thing that would be considered "injury?"

    It did not for decades. In fact, the law allowed it.

    Sure.

    Well, that is dumb. Not allowing you to vote for candidates is injury, by definition. Even if you don't like those candidates.

    Yep.

    But it did happen on a relevant scale for many people currently in their 70s. And those that had it happen were never compensated. So, looks like it is time to break out the checks.
     
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  13. UFLawyer

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    Not very close, and a tad bit too narrow.

    Dictionary definition:
    insurrection
    noun
    in·sur·rec·tion ˌin(t)-sə-ˈrek-shən

    Synonyms of insurrection
    : an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government


    Criminal definition:

    18 USC 2383: Rebellion or insurrectionText contains those laws in effect on January 23, 2000
    From Title 18-CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I-CRIMES CHAPTER 115-TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
    §2383. Rebellion or insurrection
    Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


    Notice entering Congress or any federal building is not an element of the crime or the definition. Probably explains why no one has been charged with insurrection for Jan 6. …. Because there was no insurrection. But setting fire to a federal courthouse would qualify as a rebellion against US Authority, don’t you think?
     
  14. mdgator05

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    Yeah, they weren't charged with insurrection. But multiple people were charged (and convicted) with Seditious Conspiracy. So would you prefer for people to say that the Jan. 6 people were engaged in sedition rather than an insurrection?
     
  15. UFLawyer

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    Yes, just like I prefer boys to be referred to as he/him. I don’t like the bastardization of the English language.
     
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    You can’t guarantee that, and the law doesn’t work that way.
     
  18. murphree_hall

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    Screw Jan 6th insurrectionists and everyone who participated in that. Also, anyone who looted or rioted during the George Floyd protests. I disagree with you on the Jan 6th people being treated differently, but even if you were right, it’s would be an outlier and not representative of the sentencing disparity issue.
     
  19. dynogator

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    Yes, they "entered," Congress. By smashing windows, climbing walls, and rushing barriers. Call it what it was, an "invasion."

    You seem to have completely skipped over the part about overturning an election. I can't think of any activity that more profoundly illustrates insurrection (aka treason) than using violence and intimidation to interfere with a presidential election.
     
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    It's about time to block this so-called lawyer. He's really bad at trolling.
     
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