Kochs have much more than money, they have a ground level machine in place, one that cannot be easily built. Lots of DeS billionaires pulled back when he went after Disney. It is one of the reasons, besides the whole illegal thing, that they are backtracking on that law now. is that why DeS is walking back the disney law? how have the books being banned now, that have bene on shelves fofr decades, resulted in negative impacts to children? was the bidding and selection process for the immigrant flights conducted legally? do your homework before you jump to the defense. were the funds used to pay for the flights legally allocated? do your homework, not parrot the company line if you are able to extract yourself from yur snowglobe so a kid with two dads or two moms can't talk about his family unit in second grade or he is perverted and grooming the other students. yeah, that sounds like Iran, not the US covid, highest death percentage among vulnerable people of any state in the country; support the vaccine before refuting it; selecting an AG totally disconnected from the science and driven 100% by the politics, turn the discussion from facts to personal attacks... just spot on..smdh at the tribal loyalty blind to any semblance of reality
You never made the claim that Trump was losing support and that the momentum was with another candidate in 2016? I specifically remember you making claims about how Trump would lose as soon as candidates got out. Then he just got a higher percentage of the vote.
Lol. I never said that. I voted for Kasich even knowing it was basically over by then. Did I ever make a passing statement? Maybe...No idea... That was 7 years ago...But i never pounded it as a position or belief like I do now.
Oh, I specifically remember you arguing for pages about how Trump would lose support once people dropped out (I remember it specifically because my counter to it was to look at the poll questions about second choices from Republican candidates). So that seems like a pretty heavy thumb on the scale of history. Regardless, all of this stuff is just 2016 all over again. People pretending that the party opposing Trump is important. Or that he will lose when it is 1-vs-1. Or that the fact that big donors don't like him will sink his candidacy.
I will believe the gop has moved on from Trump (and trumpism) when I see it. I hope for everyone's sake, they do. We need two functional parties. (and no the dems are not lilly white either, but at least they are not a cult of personality).
Reedy Creek still on track to dissolution: Proposal Creates State-Run Board to Control Reedy Creek Special District, Disney to Still Pay Debts RD's Billionaire network: Ron DeSantis billionaire contributors include Publix, Koch families The guy who expressed disatisfaction with RD's Disney thangy--several months AFTER fact: GOP megadonor: I’m ready to back DeSantis for president in ’24 As for the 'legality' of the money spent on getting DC's attn (via NYC/Martha's vineyard...)--I'll let the aggreived parites state their case, and defer to the courts... Personally, I do not have a beef with it. As for Covid--Freedom always comes with a price. I fully support RD's handling of it, especially vs a vis the rest of the nation, who btw, are mostly bleeding out wiht their refugees coming to FLA b/c of how their leaders shat the bed over Covid, vs. how RD handled it. (Cali, NY, IL, etc). #lifeoutsidedaglobe!
No one is saying Trump's support within the Repub party hasn't weakened. But he still leads most polls and has a very good chance of winning the nomination. You've been exaggerating his decline, and that's what folks have disagreed with.
1. Yes, some folks are saying it hasnt weakened 2. I am predicting it, not exaggerating it. I'll start an "I was wrong" post here just like I did on Swamp Gas after proclaiming that Mullen wasnt going to be fired after just one bad season. (Oops ) I'll own it. Bookmark and remind me if need be.
this is not dissolving Reedy Creek. that is just the party line you seem so eager to swallow. It is reinstating their rights that they had previously and then creating an oversight board of political hacks to try and stifle their free speech by threatening their budget. It will pass and then it will be up to Disney if they want to challenge or try and live with it. If challenged, it will fail too as the origin of the attempted oversight is clearly political and a first amendment violation. I suspect this will be a toothless board as the billionaires made it clear to DeS that he overstepped so Disney will le thim ahve his political talking point claiming oversight as long as he never tries to exercise any oversight. It remains to be seen if disney has agreed to bite their tongue in exchange for this deal or not.. Billionaire GOP Megadonor Ken Griffin: “I Don’t Appreciate Governor DeSantis Going After Disney’s Tax Status.” (forbes.com) DeSantis vs. Disney The top GOP donor this election cycle, with some $40 million in political contributions, Griffin has also been a big backer of Florida governor Ron DeSantis. “He’s done a lot of things right,” Griffin opined on Monday. That includes the much-debated “Don’t Say Gay” bill, signed into law by DeSantis in March, that bans schools from instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity for kindergarteners through third graders. It’s “mind blowing that this is an item of debate,” Griffin said of the law, which critics have said will harm the LGBTQ community. “I actually think this is a really important point of view that [DeSantis] has,” Griffin said. “I happen to agree with it.” What he doesn’t agree with: DeSantis’ spat with Disney, which vowed to fight to repeal the law. Last month DeSantis signed a bill to strip Disney World of its status as an "independent special district.” “I don’t appreciate Governor DeSantis going after Disney’s tax status,” Griffin said. “It can be portrayed, or feel, or look like retaliation.” The billionaire investor and political kingmaker issued a clear warning: “It’s important that the leaders in both parties stay above the fray when it comes to retaliation against corporate America.”
How long will this divestiture take before he is just an irrelevant has been subsisting on “glories” of the past and offerings from the easily deceived?
They have never engaged during the primaries before though. This will be a big shift in policy for them.
Honestly, I doubt they do much. The fact that they won't even name Trump in coming out against them is a big signal. Pretty similar to their actions in 2022, where they did things like very quietly backing Cheney (and pretty much funding her), but wouldn't directly confront Trump's people.
Yes they are. This is the basis for Charles’ political philosophy. He absolutely abhors any governmental oversight of his businesses. For years Koch Industries was one of the worst water polluters in the country. 01/13/2000: KOCH INDUSTRIES TO PAY RECORD FINE FOR OIL SPILLS IN SIX STATES Koch Industries' $30 Million Fine Is Biggest-Ever Pollution Penalty - WSJ Koch Industries Amassed 150 Penalties for State Environmental Violations in 20 States - EXPOSEDbyCMD
Your linked article predates mine. Same dude. Backing RD for POTUS. AFTER voicing his dislike for the disney thingy. (Thought i mentioned that...).
but even his 35-40% maga support could be enough to play out like the 2016 primary. they will blindly follow him no matter what.
Not sure the Koch brothers were ever MAGA supporters. Their "non-support" for Trump in 2024 sounds more like a nothingburger. The manage American For Prosperity. These guys have always been RINO supporters. Koch Network Vows to Deny Trump White House
It's my experience that people who use the term RINO would have to apply it to Reagan. If thats the case, sign me up.
Reagan might be considered by *some* to be a RINO, but he'd still be Republican. Ain't no way JFK woulda stayed in the steaming pile of shit the jackass party has become: If John F. Kennedy was alive today, he would be a Republican | PragerU
