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Koch’s are backing Haley

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Nov 28, 2023.

  1. channingcrowderhungry

    channingcrowderhungry Premium Member

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    They identify as libertarian for what it's worth.
     
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  2. VAg8r1

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    And yet, you feel compelled to respond to most of my posts regarding Trump. If Trump had conceded and accepted his defeat like virtually every incumbent president who lost his bid for reelection no one would be "obsessing" over him and by the way the obsession applies both ways, for every potential voter who detests him there is a potential voter that worships him.
     
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  3. duggers_dad

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    Well, they had their pick of warmongers.

    They picked one.
     
  4. Gatorrick22

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    And here I thought that was a simple case of TDS... it's far worse... it's nihilism that afflicts the Leftists.
     
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  5. mrhansduck

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    They're Republicans who reportedly either smoke weed or support legalizing it. So I guess they can call themselves libertarian under that not-so-traditional definition.

    Billionaire Charles Koch On Why Cannabis Should Be Legal
     
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  6. danmanne65

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    My only response to this will get deleted. Are you serious?
     
  7. oragator1

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    The reason it’s interesting is that as big as his lead is nationally, in Current polling he is getting 54 percent in Iowa and 46 percent in NH. If someone can consolidate the never Trump vote in those states, it’s suddenly a race. And their ground game in a small state will bring votes, just a question of how many, that’s what they are betting on. Make her strong enough that the other challengers see their votes peel away to her, and it’s a two person race. And in a two person race he’s vulernabke. Whether it happens or not is another story, but it’s interesting to see how it plays out.
    We will also see how deep Trump’s support really is. If he comes out of Iowa and NH with 20 or 30 point wins and 60 percent overall, it’s effectively over at that point, he’s the nominee. If she’s reasonably close and he is still hovering around 50 percent, it’s a race.
     
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  8. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

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    I never insulted you... so get over it.
     
  9. danmanne65

    danmanne65 GC Hall of Fame

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    No you didn’t not directly but reading your responses is causing my iq to drop.
     
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  10. Gatorrick22

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    You should be more skeptical about all news outlets, governments and agencies.
     
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  11. channingcrowderhungry

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    Unfortunately, it's very very very deep
     
  12. VAg8r1

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    The real Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is the severe case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder with which the former defeated indicted president is inflicted.
     
  13. ursidman

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    Yes, Koch is a Republican by association but what he really is - is a Libertarian. He meddles in Republican politics and uses his immense wealth via various 501c4 non-profits to fund think tanks, professorships in law schools and schools of economics to steer politics to his liking and as you mention most of his liking involves operating his businesses in a regulation-free environment.
     
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  14. danmanne65

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    I am a skeptic. Your skepticism seems to only apply to things you disagree with.
     
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  15. Gatorrick22

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    Nah, I disagree with the elected Pubs all the time...
     
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  16. danmanne65

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    Reread what I said.
     
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  17. Gatorrick22

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    Lol... that means that I am skeptical of them.
     
  18. UFLawyer

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    the fallacy in your argument is that you think everybody that is voting for DeSantis and the others are never Trump people. That is a false assumption. No Republican contender is going to catch Trump. The only way someone other than Trump will be the Republican nominee is if Trump himself backs out. Trump‘s kryptonite is not the lawsuits, it’s a lack of attention.
     
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  19. docspor

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    You mean like how you think people who rip BIG GOV pub clowns like Trump are Biden supporters? Got your 1 piece of evidence yet, fake newz? Or, are you too busy giving a masterclass in fallacious arguments?
     
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  20. danmanne65

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    Doesn’t refute my statement. I think I am done responding to you. :cool: