Killers of the Flower Moon - Book & Movie.

I don't expect a three and a half hour film to kill it at the box office. Much lower gross per screen since it will get fewer screenings. Very challenging subject matter for the mass market.

The numbers for Swift's flick are not as impressive as I expected. Most were predicting it would be Barbie-esque. Might have been if it had been a summer release.

 

The movie was released on 3600 screens compared to 3800 for Swift. I agree on the length and subject matter. Overall the movie had a 23 million dollar opening weekend. I enjoy the director and actors but will wait for it to be Prime or Netflix to watch it.

Interestingly Swifts movie only runs 4 days a week(Th-Sn) per her stipulation. It has done 130 million.

There is no comparison of the movies just using the numbers as they are the only two making any money.

 

It was financed by Apple, so I assume it will appear there first

 

Apple trying to buy an Oscar with this and/or Napoleon. New studios like Apple think it gives legitimacy. Didn’t work for Amazon economically though neither Apple or Amazon streaming need to be profitable in the way conventional studios do

 

I think they have a good shot at an Oscar with this one. It will be perfect for the "woke Hollywood" narrative too, so everyone wins, even the reactionaries and haters.

 

But there is a voting grudge against the new studios that may factor in. The Irishman on Netflix was blanked.

 

There is for sure, I just think the subject matter here and its historical importance has a better shot than another gangster movie.

 

Only if it meets 2 of the 4 new diversity standards. It has 1 down with an under represented group in a lead or supporting role. But did they hire enough diversity in the crew or have an under represented producer involved to garner consideration?
ACADEMY ESTABLISHES REPRESENTATION AND INCLUSION STANDARDS FOR OSCARS® ELIGIBILITY

 

I think they will find a way, his long time editor is a woman, so the crew will probably qualify it

 

She also had some brief appearances on Reservation Dogs, a great show, and in past seasons on Billions, although I only realized after looking at her IMDB page (we watch the show)

 

She played the Dad's young wife. He's a great character.

We are still enjoying the show very much. It's very formulaic and has a very distinctive style.

The dialogue is far from realistic but is nonetheless entertaining within a certain voice. There's only one episode left and we've been enjoying it a lot.

We are in the Triptych of the season, where between the antagonists, one seems to have completely prevailed, then in the penultimate episode it completely flips, only to flip again in the final episode where you learn that the antagonist that won two episodes ago anticipated every countermove and set up some clever trap. Unrealistic but entertaining.

We've been trying to speculate what that trap is.

The only real criticism this season is that they are trying to make Wendy likable and it's not working, although they soften the edges

 

Understandably. The Irishman was not a very good movie.

 

$23 million is very a cerebral film this time of year. I would normally wait till it streams but any film directed by Scorsese and shot by Rodrigo Pietro is worth seeing on the big screen.

I am a bit of a Taylor Swift fan but l already got my concert movie fix this summer, Stop Making Sense, directed by UF alum Jonathan Demme. No way the Swift film can hold up to that.

 

Great listen - thanks. And that is better than any review I could give about the changed focus. My one regret is no crawl at the end to match the last chapter of the book showing the systemic amount of deaths over years beyond this limited episode, although it is alluded to in a few different lines of dialogue

 

If it does a $100 million and has a wide cultural impact, DeSantis would try to keep it from being seen here. See it now!

 

It is already on the Apple+ “Coming Soon” ribbon.

 

1. Christopher Columbus--murderous scum? What a simplistic if not ignorant take.

2. Your white European ass wouldn't exist if not for CC

3. Guess what? Those angelic injuns murdered at a rate that made your and my European ancestors blush. Just the Azrecs alone, sacrificed in the neighborhood of 250,000 human beings per year.

4. The indigenous population numbered north of 100 million in 1492. They were relatively easily overtaken by fractions of their numbers, bc they were so divided and ever at war with each other. Many tribes were also cannibals. Tbl--they were incredibly effective at killing each other, before 1492.

5. Old world disease is what decimated the American Indians far more than old world weapons, by a factor > 1,000x. Hence even if they were united, once the old bugaboos were introduced, the Europeans could have left and come back 20 years later, and found a similarly decimated population.

Look, I'm not trying to whitewash history here--much of the treatment by whites towards Indians was shameful and deplorable. But as with slavery, it is absolutely counter productive to feign all the indignation your ancestors failed to (as you comfortably enjoy the fruits of thst neglect, without having any risk or skin in the game at all--ie cleansed of all the factors to drove their actions), and only serves to assuage your white guilt, and foster a sense of victimhood in the objects of your pity.

It's patronizing, pathetic, 200× years too late and waaaayyyy tooooo little, and is not only contrary to unity, but affirmatively divisive.