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Keyontae Johnson transferring out

Discussion in 'Nuttin but Net' started by akaGatorhoops, Apr 30, 2022.

  1. bigDgator

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    Good for him and good luck to him. I am ready to turn the page on the Mike White era at UF and move forward. I appreciate Key and all his efforts for Florida, but if he is looking for a fresh start then so be it.
     
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  2. Tjgators

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    He didn't faint. His heart stopped. He had to be revived. He was very fortunate to be revived off the court within minutes by a cardiologist. The way it all went down is a miracle. No one sits out for 2 years because they fainted and hit their head.
     
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  3. ETGator

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    If KJ is not being allowed to play for Florida, I think it was a decision above Coach Golden's pay grade.

    Maybe KJ did everything necessary and he's still being held back for some reason . . . so in order to play he has to go elsewhere.
     
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  4. traubgator

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    Florida did the 100% correct thing, no way you can clear Johnson to play basketball at UF again.
     
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  5. Gatorhead

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    Agree ET - UF legal advised the University president and AD, perhaps some boosters as well.

    UF's liability may have been in the 100 Million range given Key's
    (NBA income potential) at least pre 'event".

    As we often here in the business I am in, SETTLE is the mantra, going to trial is too UNPREDICTABLE.

    I suspect most of the legal eagles on this site new Key would NEVER play for UF again, probably before his gurney was off the court in Tallahassee.
     
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  6. murphree_hall

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    I have read reports that said no CPR was performed, and I tend to believe that more considering you will not find one credible source from that day that says CPR was performed. How do we even know that those who said CPR was performed are sure of what they saw, or that they even know what CPR looks like? If CPR was really performed, you’d likely be able to Google Keyontae Johnson CPR and get meaningful results.
     
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  7. murphree_hall

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    Read what I said.

    I think he had a brain injury as a result of the collapse. He also may have a condition that led to the fainting. Could it be a heart condition? Possibly. But we have no real evidence of it or reason to presume that is the case. All you guys are doing is speculating.
     
  8. murphree_hall

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    Once again, where is your evidence of this other than you all just repeating your claims?
     
  9. murphree_hall

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    As an example, here is an account (presumably eyewitness) from the day KJ collapsed. I won’t link it because it’s from another forum and I’m not sure about the rules. If @tilly or another mod says I can post it, I will.

    “No CPR. He was breathing but appeared to be unconscious when they rolled him off on the stretcher.”

    So who are we to believe? Your sources that you can’t verify or my source that I can’t verify? All I know is there aren’t any media reports indicating CPR.
     
  10. murphree_hall

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    Sorry I had to reply twice to you for this post.

    You can be hospitalized for 10 days for many conditions other than heart-related. I suffered rhabdomyolysis right before a basketball game and was laid up in the hospital for four days. They wanted to keep me longer but I fought to get out. I could have died, btw.
     
  11. tilly

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    We can link other boards but there is one exception. I cant remember what it is though. @OklahomaGator , can you assist?
     
  12. oragator1

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    If you want to say we aren’t 100 percent sure based on what’s publicly confirmed, you are right. But it feels pretty overwhelming evidence wise.
    Not sure we will ever know.

    If we add it all up - fainted on the court, saved by a cardiologist, his physical activity severely limited by doctors to this day, stress tests as part of his exams, still not cleared to play (if it was just the fall causing some head trauma, there’s little chance he would still be under physical limitations), it really only points to one primary cause outside of weird one offs like what Neiron Ball or Randy Russell had, (but those were pretty easily diagnosable, and we wouldn’t have had to send off to med schools around the country).
    But let’s set all that aside and take the underlying cause out of it. We didn’t clear him for a reason. If we were only worried about fainting he wouldn’t have been permanently benched. People faint all the time, I would bet it’s happened a whole bunch of times across various sports over the years, especially in practice. This is clearly more than that.
    So if he looks around until he finally finds someone to clear him, he is putting himself at risk. And that’s my fear.
     
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  13. Tjgators

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    I'm good knowing what I know and not sharing it with you.
     
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  14. murphree_hall

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    Overwhelming evidence? What evidence are you speaking of? All we have is conjecture. If I’m walking down the street and get hit by a car and a cardiologist sees me and saves my life with aid, that doesn’t necessarily mean I had a heart attack. I’m not saying he didn’t 100%, but we can’t just assume that it was. In these kinds of situations, doctors just rush to assist regardless of their specialities.
     
  15. murphree_hall

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    Well if you have some inside information, cool… but I can’t go off of what is not shared with me. Even if you can’t tell us what you know, are you at liberty to say why it’s credible information?
     
  16. gogators73

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    The cardiologist that saved him is a close family friend. I’ll just say thank the Lord she was there.
     
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  17. murphree_hall

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    Why is there so much innuendo and mystery behind this? A lot of inside information that seemingly a lot of people know, but yet at the same time nobody knows. I respect privacy, but if we are in a public forum, you have to expect that there will be scrutiny when a public claim is made but details remain private.
     
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  18. GatorTodd

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    My only question would be why now? Why not have done this before last season.
     
  19. gogators73

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    That I don’t know, but until the family comes public with it there is only so much people are willing to say due to HIPAA. I know she was very scared, or as scared as you can be for having seen it all. I’ve been with her when she was on-call and didn’t flinch when getting called for what seemed like bad situations so she definitely isn’t one to overreact.
     
  20. murphree_hall

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    Ok, but this doesn't add up. The cardiologist, who is a friend of your family is maintaining complete professional doctors' confidentiality yet she told you what happened? And she told you, but you can't tell us? I'm just trying to wrap my head around this.