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Key Baltimore bridge collapses after collision

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  1. G8trGr8t

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    this is the way it should be. ship lost power, 3 tugs already connected, three more dispatched and engaged, bridge safe. No structure is going to stop these 1000 ton ships. who knows if they had the tide in their favor or not

    Huge Shipping Container Loses All Power Near NYC Bridge Not Long After Baltimore Key Bridge Collapse (msn.com)

    On Friday evening, a massive container ship lost power as it was heading out to sea in the shipping lane between Staten Island and Bayonne, New Jersey, according to the New York Post.

    The incident came as the ship was near the vicinity of the Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge, bringing to mind the potential of a repeat of the March 26 accident in Baltimore in which a container ship lost power and drifted into the Francis Scott Key bridge, demolishing the structure.

    A NY tugboat captain has reported to @gCaptain container ship APL QINGDAO lost power while transiting New York harbor. They had 3 escort tugs but 3 more were needed to bring her under control. They regained power & were brought to anchor near the verrazano bridge,” Konrad posted.

    BREAKING: A NY tugboat captain has reported to @gCaptain “container ship APL QINGDAO lost power while transiting New York harbor. They had 3 escort tugs but 3 more were needed to bring her under control. They regained power & were brought to anchor near the verrazano bridge” pic.twitter.com/Z2IP04xmLs
     
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  2. VAg8r1

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    I would add that there are two huge differences between the incidents in New York and Baltimore. First, the container ship in New York was being accompanied by escort tugs unlike the ship in Baltimore which was completely on its own and secondly the Verrazano bridge is a suspension bridge (see top picture) with considerably more space between its supporting piers than the Key Bridge in Baltimore (lower pic) and even if the ship in NY was unable to restart the probability that it would have hit a pier is much less than the probability of the collision in Baltimore.
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  3. G8trGr8t

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    Yes, lots of differences. The biggest difference is there was a plan in place in the event of engine failure to help prevent catastrophe. Tugs should be mandatory at all places where these massive ships are crossing under bridges.
     
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  4. cocodrilo

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    Is it too soon for some humor? This event had to remind me of my late brother, who had a job as a reporter for the Daytona Beach News Journal. A ship hit a bridge somewhere in Florida, I forget where, but he wrote the paper's article about it, and the headline he wrote (and as published) was "When the Ship Hits the Span."
     
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  5. vaxcardinal

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    Ship has been removed, port is mostly back in business.
     
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  6. gtr2x

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    Was wondering if the crew, who had to stay on ship the entire time got paid for that time.
     
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  7. tampagtr

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    Competent governance

     
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  8. citygator

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    American exceptionalism. We do good work. Now if Biden could just get them to finish the 485 rework around south Charlotte id vote for his third term.
     
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  9. gatorchamps960608

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    So much good news with Biden as president because he governs competently.

    So few people know because good news doesn't produce clicks and likes.

    Meanwhile, idiots all over this country think the economy is doing badly.

    Doomed.
     
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  10. jeffbrig

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    Meanwhile, Trump would be saying "Well, I like bridges that don't fall into the water." or useless statements like "We're gonna build a new bridge... a better bridge.... and we're gonna make THEM pay for it."

    Reminds me of the yard sign I put up in 2020:

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  11. l_boy

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    This and the rebuilding of the collapsed highway bridge in (OH or PA?) shows what we are capable of. But normally our infrastructure process is so mired in regulations, legal hurdles and red tape it’s hard to accomplish anything.
     
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  12. rivergator

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    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/18/politics/justice-department-francis-scott-key-bridge/index.html
     
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  13. channingcrowderhungry

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    Bottom of a pint glass
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  14. Gatorhead

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    100 Mil ? - They gettin off cheap.
    New Bridges are EXPENSIVE.
     
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  15. GatorJMDZ

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    A container ship sailing into Port Tampa lost power. A very competent pilot utilizing tug boats was able to avert a major potential issue.
     
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  16. vaxcardinal

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    Yes but they were seeking repayment for the cleanup costs right now.
     
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  17. Gatorhead

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    That makes sense with the 100 million price tag. A new bridge? I'm estimating 1.5 to 2 billion.
     
  18. G8trGr8t

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    that was quick.

    Justice Department Settles Baltimore Bridge Collapse Suit for $100 Million

    The Justice Department had sought $103 million when it sued two Singaporean corporations: the ship’s registered owner, Grace Ocean Private Ltd., and Synergy Marine, which managed it. The two companies agreed to pay $102 million in the settlement, the Justice Department said Thursday.

    In a statement, a top Justice Department official said the resolution marked an important milestone and an early settlement in the federal government’s effort to recoup the costs of responding to the disaster.

    “This resolution ensures that the costs of the federal government’s cleanup efforts in the Fort McHenry Channel are borne by Grace Ocean and Synergy and not the American taxpayer,” said Justice Department official Benjamin C. Mizer.
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    In its lawsuit, the Justice Department alleged that the Dali’s owner and operator ignored safety issues that resulted in the vessel losing power and crashing into the bridge. Out of negligence, mismanagement and, at times, a desire to cut costs, the companies configured the Dali’s electrical and mechanical system in a way that prevented the vessel from being able to quickly restore propulsion and steering after a power outage, the Justice Department said.
     
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  19. vegasfox

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    The economy is going down and Biden (as predicted) deliberately started the Ukraine war to distract from the disastrous exit from Afghanistan. 1M killed in Ukraine to help Democrats in the 2022 midterms.

    Border disaster. Authoritarian lawfare. Economy crashing. Losing in Africa. Killed Euro economies. Massive corruption. Environmental degradation. Censorship.
     
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  20. duggers_dad

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    China (and possibly Russia) would have had a new bridge up by now.
     
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