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Kamrade Kamala's Biggest Flip Flop + Another on Same Day

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ETGator1, Aug 27, 2024.

  1. VAg8r1

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    Once again another demonstration that TDS (transgender derangement syndrome) is real.
     
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  2. l_boy

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    You just contradicted yourself there.

    I don’t know if any one position moves the needle, but if she continues to stake out some more moderate positions she will give some independents and a few Republicans permission to vote for her, given that Trump is the alternative.

    Frankly from a campaigning perspective, so far, she has done much better than I would have expected.
     
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  3. BigCypressGator1981

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    She’s absolutely crushing it compared to expectations. Did ANYONE expect her to be doing this well? Hell I bet she is surprised.
     
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  4. slocala

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    Not a fan of dumb money on things that don’t work. The best way to stop boarder [sic :p] crossings is to encourage US and Mexico companies to build factories and create jobs throughout LatAm (mostly Mexico) and develop a NA free trade zone to ween Americans off of China crap. Second part of plan is to develop satellite campuses of major universities up and down LatAm. Third is to push democratic principals through LatAm. This is a 50 year to 100 year project.
     
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  5. gatorchamps960608

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    This is rich coming from a MAGAt SFG.

    Trump takes positions such as being anti-electric vehicle or wanting to ban TikTok and then along come the billionaires to write him checks and he does 180s.
     
  6. gatorpa

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    She’s pandering, don’t be fooled.
     
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  7. gatorpa

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    Seriously, haven’t we heard for years it’s stupid, a waste of money, dangerous for immigrants.

    Now it’s touted by Harris and cheered that Obama Admin built more wall than Trump Admin.
    Crazy town I tell you.
     
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  8. l_boy

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    Of course she is. Just like she was pandering to lefties in 2020.

    My point is I think it is positive that she is politically malleable. I’d rather have than a die hard lefty.
     
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  9. gatorpa

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    That wall failure above is due to terrible engineering.

    Do you think Trump drew up the plans and supervised the construction?

    It’s like blaming the Reagan for the Challenger disaster.

    ER visits under emtala only apply to Medical emergencies so the ER really isn’t giving the healthcare you are talking about.
     
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  10. gatorpa

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    That’s the point she really isn’t malleable. She’s FOS.
     
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  11. gator_jo

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    Nobody ever said that targeted sections of walls were unproductive. We've obviously been doing that for decades.

    That's quite different from an orange buffoon babbling about a 1500 mile wall, and lying that Mexico will pay for it. Obviously.
     
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  12. gatorpa

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    Reminds me of the screaming about the Trump tariffs. Only to watch Biden let them stand and add money..

    Funny as hell.
     
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  13. 92gator

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    "Yall are too stupid to figureit out"???

    Seems you've carried way more than your share of water for your party, pimping for their own rich.

    :rolleyes:
     
  14. 92gator

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    There's a very good possibility that middle murica will realize she's campaigning for Trump, rather than as faux Trump.

    As I've written many times b4, establishment pubs and machine dems campaign conservative and govern Big Gov.

    But this gambit is too Trump, when they've spent the last decade defining their values as opposite Trump.
     
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    Ah, cut the shit. An ultra neo-progressive, from arguably the most progressive district in the U.S. (San Francisco), who's father is known for being a Marxist professor wasn't pandering to anybody in 2020. That's who she is. You don't get rated the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate (based on voting record) unless you try. And until proven otherwise, her voting record is all we have to glean from. Her words mean nothing. They're not even her words at this point.
     
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  16. 92gator

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    ^^^so weird
     
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    Wasn’t the wall rushed through and built by Trump cronies? I think you’re being quite generous giving him a pass (as usual). With the way it was done it was inevitably going to fail, I remember people pointing out some of the crazy environmental and flooding/water management issues as it was being built (things that subverted normal environmental and engineering review). Like… people were saying it was going to fail from the get go.

    It’s nothing at all like the challenger disaster which was more of an institutional NASA problem, if looking specifically at the “O-ring” which caused that disaster that was a known issue that pre-dated the Reagan administration. Maybe the Reagan admin deserved some blame for not fixing it, maybe the admin applied some political pressure to send those teachers up there in a situation with higher than usual risk, but most people would still view it all as a tragic accident. The wall was more like a fraud/scam from the word go.
     
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  18. gatorpa

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    Do you have any links to prove that Trump oversaw any of the engineering of the sections that collapsed?

    Or that his “cronies” built it? Even that doesn’t prove he had anything to do with the design and implementation.

    Maybe I should have used an example like Biden being responsible for the SS failures that allowed an assassin to get shots off at Trump. (FTR I don’t think Biden does bear any in that issue).

    I may seem like I’m giving a pass but I prefer some PROOF before I level blame for something like that.
     
  19. gatorchamps0607

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    I challenge you to show me where I've EVER carried water for any party. The only thing I've ever done here is denigrate both parties and the two-party system and advocated for Libertarians to get equal ballot access for a legit third option.
     
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    Was Reagan POTUS when the Space Shuttle was designed? And how many years and successful missions before the Challenger disaster? How many after?

    Trump's wall was a centerpiece of his campaign. As POTUS, several companies bid to build the wall. The fact the wall failed within months was a failure of many.

    As for the ER, too many use it for primary care. And how many patients end up in the ER that could've avoided it with some prior, preventative care they didn't get because of cost?