Juwan Howard throws punch at Wisconsin coach

I never said they did.

 

Dude. Howard was yelling at him and he was trying to get him to listen to why the timeout was called. Ive always liked Howard, but dude is a hot head and this is all on him.

 

Perhaps I am misunderstanding Baz, but you said:
"in my opinion what should have happened by now is both coaches reaching out to each other, (including the assistant who was bitch-slapped), to apologize "

Why would BOTH coaches need to reach out to each other and apologize?

 

The assistant should be included and get an apology but perhaps (we don't know) he should also apologize for what he may have said or done. All I can go by is the footage we have all seen - but no transcripts nor body cam footage so we don't really know everything that was said or done.

Do we?

I don't know why so many people become authorities on everything that went down just by looking at videos.

We weren't there.....we only know so much......

 

we agree on that.

 

There is a 2nd video taken in the line and you can hear JH talking. Once Howard went off, I dont see why the assistant should have to stay quiet.

The Wisconsin statement seemed pretty defiant and seemed to 100% indicate their faith that their staff did nothing wrong.

 

Spurrier would have had a field day with this wannabe coach. You coach until the final buzzer. It's like complaining about Bama running up the score but Saban saying it's not his fault he emptied the bench with 4th and 5th string players and they still scored. Besides, the timeout was a no-nothing call. Howard was just butt hurt that he was getting schooled. But, he did the worst thing possible as a coach, show your emotions in public view. No matter how pissed you are on the inside, you show the opposite on the outside. You aren't just a coach, you are a mentor to young men who will take this with them in whatever endeavors they aspire to.

 

and that footage picked up much of the audio. This is 100% on Howard.
He is an idiot.

 

let me first state the obvious, juwan was absolutely wrong for slapping the asst coach.

i have zero issues with mich pressing, i have zero issues with the wisc timeout.

so, buzzer goes off, and it's handshaking time. juwan is visibly upset and attempting to walk past the garb. garb grabs juwan, and blocks his path.

u think garb did nothing wrong in this altercation?

 

so garb has 0% culpability in this altercation?

 

Howard was already hot and jawing at him and at first did not enter the line. Gard tries to stop him to explain. That is not a fineable offense. He was trying to explain ot down a notch. Only a hothead gets his panties in a wad over something that benign.

 

If our coach responded to Gards actions the way Howard did yes, I would put the actions leading up to and after all on our coach. I can't fathom any of our coaches pulling that including White, Donovan Kruger, Etc. Think of how absurd it is to picture any of our coaches doing that. It wouldn't happen. Head coaches should be way past the "disrespect" leading to physical response phase of maturity and composure. Again, if this was a one off for Howard it could be viewed differently but given his reason for being mad, prior history, actions during and subsequent BS excuse and half assed apology it's pretty easy to see Howard as the main culprit here.

I'd expect our coach to rise above the technique of distorting the "hands on me/defend myself" excuse in that situation. High school level crap.

 

Man, I've watched this a few times. There was nothing remotely aggressive about what Gard did given the context of the line that they were in. If Howard couldn't handle Gard wanting to talk with him about it, he should have avoided the line altogether. Howard grabbed Gard's jacket, pointed in his face, and cussed at him. That's just not remotely close to being a reasonable response to the "grab" that Gard did to Howard. I wouldn't put any of this on Gard. And still, if that's all Howard does, there's no suspensions, no fines, and no punches/slaps.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

 

they're walking, and juwan says "i'll remember that shit". garb grabs him and says "whoa! hey, you f**king...."

i didn't say garb deserved to be fined, the big 10 did. i think acting like garb was without fault is kinda off-base. u see an angry man, who u know is upset with you, your instinct shouldn't be to grab him.

again, for the people in the back, juwan was wrong!! but garb isn't without fault. just my opinion tho..

 

sorry, i keep calling the wisc coach "garb". honest mistake. just seeing its actually gard.

 

correct.

if those two simply exchanged words…. No issue,

the issue is the physical punch. Gard has zero culpability for the actions of another grown man.

 

he was correct to grab juwan first?

 

The first, last and only aggressive physical actions were done by Howard.

Gard holding his arm to offer explanation is not aggressive.

This is 100% on Howard.

 

I'd give them equal blame up to the point where Gard tried to stop & talk to Howard. After that, Howard went ballistic & it's all on him.

This handshake line is where you're supposed to show sportsmanship & leave the game behind. In that setting, upon re-watching clips, this is a pretty ugly scene. Because Howard escalated things to the point where his players got involved, I'm dismayed that the Big Ten was so lenient.

 

we'll agree to disagree on that.

regarding gard, do u believe he was right to grab juwan by the arm?