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July 4th was the hottest day ever

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rivergator, Jul 5, 2023.

  1. l_boy

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    break this down further.
    5/110= .05/yr
    1/10= .10/yr
    3/20= .15/yr

    Acceleration?
     
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  2. okeechobee

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    In one sentence you're speculating what caused global cooling. The next sentence, you say global cooling was media hype.

    All you have to do is look at the global temperature anomalies data provided by NOAA to see the cooling trend which occurred between the 1940s and 1970s.

    Perhaps we should shoot some more sulfate into the air. I mean, after all, we have accelerating ice cap melt, hurricanes get worse every year (hint they actually don't), Florida will be under water soon. Shoot the sulfate in the air, ask questions later.
     
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    If it goes rises another inch, I'm moving to Colorado.
     
  4. l_boy

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    I don’t know why it cooled. Just repeated one theory. Not all trends are exactly linear.

    One side effect of cleaning up pollution may be higher temperatures. Some pollution cools, other types of pollution warm.

    By your own numbers you have shown that sea level is rising, at an accelerating rate. Even if storms don’t change, if sea level is higher the storms will do more damage.

    Temperatures are rising and sea level is rising at an accelerating rate. What in the hell are you arguing with?
     
  5. okeechobee

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    Climate change is real. There has always been climate change. Since the beginning of time, the Earth has been warming and cooling. We have had many ice ages and will have many more in the hundreds of thousands of years to come. It's gonna be okay.
     
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  6. okeechobee

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    Gotta get more sulfates in the air, fast!
     
  7. l_boy

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    So you think it is a coincidence that co2 levels have near doubled in 150 years, which is about the same amount caused by man made activities, and at the same time we are experiencing global warming?

    We will survive. But there could be a lot of disruption along the way. If you want to see potential geopolitical impacts, look at climate change impact threat assessments put together by the defense department, for at least the last 20 years.

    The good news is Mara lago could be underwater.
     
  8. l_boy

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    The volcanic ash from the Yellowstone super volcano eruption will keep you cool.
     
  9. okeechobee

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    CO2 levels have way more than doubled in the past 150 years. They went from essentially 0 pre-industrialization to what we see today. Yet for almost half of the past 150 years, we had lower than average global temperature anomalies.

    Let me ask you this. Do you think we would be worse off if the global temperatures rise 7 degrees by the year 2100 or if we shoot some more sulfate in the air?
     
  10. okeechobee

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    I'll be on a ski resort making fun of cuck libs and too busy to notice.
     
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  11. l_boy

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    I can’t speak to the benefits or harms of shooting sulfates in the air.

    If global temperature rise 7 degrees we will be in a world of hurt. Coastlines will be wrecked. Places like TX will be unlivable in the summer.
     
  12. magnetofsnatch

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    It was the hottest day on record because records only go back to 1979. So it was the hottest day on record since 1979. Global records only go back that far. Not debating the issue; simply adding some specifics.
     
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  13. danmanne65

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    Two things can be true Al Gore was an idiot who spouted the most far out predictions. And anthropogenic climate change is real. I was skeptical for a long time but at a point skepticism becomes stupidity.
     
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    Yet there are still Christian’s who think the end is near. Hmm maybe its gonna be global warming that does it.
     
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    Once again is Al Gore a climate Scientist?
     
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    Hmm. How did plants grow without CO2? You should just stop.
     
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  17. okeechobee

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    I was speaking on carbon emissions more than doubling in the past 150 years, which is accurate. That said, actual CO2 levels are still just 412 parts per million currently, which is about a 47 percent increase since before the industrial age. We, as in we the human race, are not going to melt the polar ice caps.
     
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    It’s more damning that he is not a scientist, because he had a platform as vice President where people expected him to stand behind his predictions, even if he’s merely repeating the predictions of one of his consultants. In this case, Gore was paraphrasing what an oceanographer had told him. A high ranking politician repeating a lie doesn’t make it any less of a lie. As VP, he had a duty to vet the information he was imploring everyone with. No different than Bush vetting WMD claims in Iraq. They bear responsibility for their words when their words have such a major impact on policy and attitudes.
     
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  19. tampagtr

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    Gore is perhaps the most underappreciated visionary of our time. Wrote a long post on it years ago that I cannot find. But briefly, despite Republican misquoting and mocking, he was the original government official recognizing the potential of the Internet as an economic force. Positions on global warming speak for themselves. And he also predicted the Iraq war would be a debacle and was wildly mocked for it, and a speech in San Francisco. The late Michael Kelly excoriated him.
     
  20. WESGATORS

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    It's been mentioned, but the data goes back to 1979. My first thought when I read this was an intro video at The Living Seas at Epcot where they talk about the Earth's beginnings:

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    Maybe we just have too many people on this rock and we are building and consuming too much...won't hurt Earth, but may make our ability to live here comfortably get harder over time. We simply don't have enough forward thinking people in positions that matter with the authority they need to take corrective actions; is it possible that the only corrective actions that come our way will come via catastrophes and other tragedies?

    Go GATORS!
    ,WESGATORS
     
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