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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gator515151, Nov 13, 2023.

  1. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

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    At least you're consistent on this river, but I'm not a fan of this manner of enforcement at all.

    Now, knowing the way Too Hot operates, my opinion is clearly all that matters. :D I know this forum doesn't belong to me, just expressing the humble opinion of a single poster.
     
  2. homer

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    It’s not a lie if you believe it.
     
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  3. Gator715

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    I don't think any posters here are making the point that White people are victims in America today.

    The point is we're not even allowed to bring up situations where bad things happen to White people across racial lines, even if its purpose is simply to contextualize that just because something bad happens across racial lines, that doesn't mean it's evidence of a broader narrative of oppression.

    The only unfair policy I'm not a fan of, despite the recent affirmative action ruling, is the holding of race/sex/ethnicity as a "factor" in admissions and hirings. I consider that to be discriminatory and prejudicial towards "non-marginalized" groups. But even that's not enough to call America "oppressive" towards White people. Just unfair policy trying to remedy unfair realities which will always be unfair. That doesn't mean we fight injustice (where it will always exist) with injustice (which won't even stop it from existing).

    I will never have the same opportunities as a Beverly Hills trust fund baby, that doesn't mean the US is oppressing me.
     
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  5. rivergator

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    who is stopping you?
     
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  6. Gator715

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    When I said "not allowed" what I meant is people automatically dismiss it as "White grievance," or "playing the victim," which apparently is ridiculous on its face.
     
  7. dangolegators

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    That's because it often is. The poster who started this thread has a long history of it.
     
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  8. Gator715

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    I don't think it is, I think a lot of folks on the left get defensive when people share stories that undermine their narrative.

    The truth is, people take individual incidents and treat them as evidence furthering the narrative of oppression in America. So when the roles are reversed regarding the races, that threatens the ability of left-wing activists to use these individual incidents in the future because people acknowledge that it's a big country and a lot of bad things happen across racial lines. That doesn't mean a certain race is oppressed nor does it mean the motive is racism.
     
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  9. wgbgator

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    What is the point of posting something where the story is "black man kills white man, is arrested for murder" or "illegal immigrant kills woman, is arrested for murder" if it isnt some kind of racial grievance? These are obviously terrible things, but what is the purpose of sharing them on this forum? What is the message being conveyed? I dont think its "the system works." As I mentioned earlier, does anyone think there will be miscaraige of justice here? That the law wont be applied?
     
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  10. mrhansduck

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    In response to a poster asking why MAGA always wants to be victims, your response was to ask him "A man beaten to death isn’t a victim?" I'm not sure if you really interpreted his post as arguing that Lewis is not a victim or you were just making a rhetorical point. I thought the poster was more talking about the response to this story and grievances more general as opposed to whether Lewis is a victim or not. I don't think anyone is questioning that.
     
  11. Gator715

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    Simple:

    To point out that the reverse doesn't further a narrative of oppression. We can cherry-pick stories all day long. CNN and MSNBC have their outrage porn, Fox has theirs.
     
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  12. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

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    What response and what grievances exactly? That matters.
     
  13. Gator715

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    Here's the order of posts:

    I said this:

    PITBOSS responded like this:

    I say this:

     
  14. dangolegators

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    He asked, 'What is it with Maga always wanting to be victims?'. He was talking about MAGA, not the actual victim of this awful crime. MAGA specializes in white grievance and victimhood. Just look at their cult leader.
     
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  15. wgbgator

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    You think posting about how the system prosecutes black people or non-white immigrants to the fullest extent of the law when they harm white people undermines a "narrative of oppression?" Maybe that makes sense to Fox viewers I guess. Does it make sense to you or are you just speaking for hypothetical goobers who watch Fox news?
     
  16. Gator515151

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    Take a look at the starting of this thread and exactly where it turned vile. POST # 14. There was a post just after post #14 that VAg8r accidentally posted into the wrong thread that a certain other poster immediately fistbumped. See post #s 15,16&17. It was not until those two posts and post#19 that I became offended and joined in on this vile discussion of posters post history.
     
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  17. Gator715

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    He was talking about MAGA, yet he was responding to my post.
     
  18. Gator715

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    It's not oppression based on racial lines, if you even want to call doing what every other country on planet Earth does, "oppression."
     
  19. dangolegators

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    Here is what you said in the OP:

    "No you have not heard of him because no gun was involved and he was white but truly a sad story."

    You brought up race and guns in the OP. If that isn't politicizing it, I don't know what is. You are the one who made this thread political, with your first post.
     
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  20. orangeblue_coop

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    I don’t know what part of this simple concept OP can’t seem to comprehend.

    Black mob kills white boy, black mob is subsequently arrested, justice will be served. OP cries that the media didn’t cover it enough for his liking, even though other posters verified that they heard of the story before he posted it. LOL. Always the victims.