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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by CRIMDEFgator, Nov 11, 2023.

  1. Gatorrick22

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    I totally agree, that's why the portal should be used as an augment and not as a sustainable strategy for building a program... something that you would have to spend ton$ on year after year.

    I, instead, like the way that Napier is building our program, but patience is key to this rebuild.
     
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  2. gatorsteve_1967

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    all the talk about horses on this thread makes me want to watch Kentucky Derby races...
     
  3. Wanne15

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    aybe he was supposed to have help over the top. Our safety’s are very green.
     
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  4. MarineG8R

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    I think FSU just jumped UF in recruiting with UF’s latest flip? Even if they didn’t they are still doing well in recruiting and on the field. Sooo
     
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  5. Yep. I still think the formula holds: recruit at least three top-5 classes in a row to get into the national championship, or recruit three top-10ish classes in a row to be a perennial contender. On top of that, recruit a decent transfer class through the portal each year to fill in the gaps. UGA consistently recruits high school kids at a top-5 ranking but its transfer classes are ranked between 50 and 100. FSU has been swapping top-15/top-25 high school recruiting and top-25/ top-15 transfer classes and might be on the verge of a breakthrough.
     
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  6. ridgetop

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    It’s one year.. and in a year that they are having great success . Norvell has not built a solid base of recruited talent. And also hasn’t shown he can do it year after year after year.. some of y’all just look for reasons to be pessimistic .
    We all knew that UF needed to be burned down and rebuilt. Some of y’all act like that could be done in two years and still be done well
    So it’s long lasting .
    Give Billly time to build his team his way. It worked for Saban. It worked for Smart. It worked for Harbaugh.
     
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  7. MarineG8R

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    No one is questioning the rebuild we are just seeing coaching issues. The talent/youth excuse is getting old. It’s okay to be critical. I know next years excuses for poor play will be a tough schedule.
     
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  8. CadGator

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    Not sure the Aw-Shucks attitude of the Head Coach is gonna cut it in the long run.
     
  9. rthomas4488

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    Yet, Alabama, Le Miss, and lSu styll won. Close ONly countz in horseshoes and GRENADES
     
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  10. GolphinGator

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    Florida makes a FG and they won also. That FG is made 9 out of 10 times.
     
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  11. mocgator

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    Dude. We have no upper classmen. I think we have 1 senior.
     
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  12. ridgetop

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    Alright
    I’ve changed my mind
    Let’s fire everyone.. leadership starts at the top..
    Hire new coaches and start over. Then in 3 years fire them and start over when they don’t win the SEC East. Then..
    We can just be UTenn..
    OR
    We can have some patience, let the process work and let the coach build his team…
     
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  13. northgagator

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    I wonder how many of passe actually produce positive yardage or converted on 3rd downs?
     
  14. bobbybaker86

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    man these kids have been playing football there whole lives and we’re 10 games into the season. And we have a lot of players who have been in college for more than 3 years who actually play:

    Mertz
    Pearsall
    Leonard
    Kingsley
    Princely
    Sapp
    Wingo
    Kimber
    Hill
    George

    without the covid added years, THOSE guys are redshirt juniors or true seniors. That “we’re young” excuse gotta stop
     
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  15. tommyvee

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    And refuses to throw it away when pressured.
     
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  16. MarineG8R

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    Well then it’s because they have a new DC. ;)
     
  17. ridgetop

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    I agree but how many of those older guys do you consider high end SEC starters? Mertz? Leonard? princely? Wingo? kimber? George?
     
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    a new DC who didn’t even field a top D at Southern Miss lol.
     
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  19. tommyvee

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    We started two true freshmen at safety. And young is in experience and in the rotation. There’s no way these guys should be getting significant minutes at this early of a stage of their careers.

    Look at the two deep. Do you trust most of these players to play consistently at a high standard? Do these guys even know the standard?
     
  20. bobbybaker86

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    i think Mertz, Leonard (when healthy), Mazz, and Princely are high end SEC players. I was speaking more from an experience standpoint than a talent standpoint.