Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!
  1. Hi there... Can you please quickly check to make sure your email address is up to date here? Just in case we need to reach out to you or you lose your password. Muchero thanks!

It looks like Drew to UK - Nope Drew turns down Kentucky - UK scrambles and turns to Mark Pope (BYU)

Discussion in 'Nuttin but Net' started by akaGatorhoops, Apr 10, 2024.

  1. REM08

    REM08 GC Hall of Fame

    3,410
    52
    293
    Jun 1, 2010
    Arkansas
    I woke up feeling similarly. His offense is beyond entertaining and he seems incredibly smart and likable. Just hope he can recruit. I'll never feel that he was proven enough for the offer but I hope he does well despite this.
     
  2. gatorblues

    gatorblues Premium Member

    2,473
    5,573
    2,703
    Apr 3, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    Pitino is a great coach, but he will be 72 before the next basketball season starts. He would have been a three to five year bandaid, not a long-term fix.
     
  3. AzCatFan

    AzCatFan GC Hall of Fame

    12,197
    1,157
    1,618
    Apr 9, 2007
    I agree that when hiring alumni, if your conference or greatest rival wouldn't even sniff the coach your school is hiring, then it's very likely a bad hire. Spurrier had proven himself worthy of a bigger job when Florida hired him by making Duke, yes Duke, a competitive top 25 team annually. If Florida didn't hire Spurrier in 1990, some other big school would have sooner rather than later. Pope? No way in heck does KY even mention his name if he wasn't an alum.

    I guess for KY, if Pope can at least match Cal's success level, he'll get a little extra leeway as an alum. If Pope falters, then in 3 or 4 years, the expectations for the next guy will be lowered a bit at the start, and again, KY fans will have a little more patience. But still, this looks like a panic hire, and Pope isn't a guy any other blue blood wouldn't have looked at with his current resume.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. rserina

    rserina GC Hall of Fame

    25,444
    1,154
    1,558
    Apr 3, 2007
    Ringwood, NJ
    It’s gonna be very interesting to watch. Pope had maximum roster continuity at BYU. Didn’t depend on the portal. Lots of LDS kids. Usually had experience. Kentucky is the polar opposite. I am curious how he approaches prep recruiting and the portal, which is more where they had issues. Between that the covid year and transfers, it became so much harder to play that many freshmen significant minutes against guys who were 3-4 years older, more experienced, and more physically developed.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  5. beechgator

    beechgator GC Legend

    830
    213
    308
    Aug 31, 2007
    that's a refreshing take DDC..
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  6. dailydoublecat

    dailydoublecat Respected Rival

    9,135
    327
    293
    Apr 8, 2007
    Ocala, FL
    I was so beat down from the used car salesman BS---that even if we get our ass kicked and I can see progression I will be fine with it. I hope to have more players stay longer than 8 months.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. audiogatorjim

    audiogatorjim GC Hall of Fame

    1,767
    808
    1,833
    Mar 15, 2009
    Well, if it’s a Pope, UK need not worry about scandalous affairs with women…..
     
  8. beechgator

    beechgator GC Legend

    830
    213
    308
    Aug 31, 2007
    Yep. I've read many of your posts on the subject the last few years.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  9. grant1

    grant1 GC Hall of Fame

    3,460
    568
    408
    Nov 10, 2009
    also 4 tickets to the KY Derby and the Masters
     
  10. GatorPlanet

    GatorPlanet GC Hall of Fame

    9,602
    2,281
    1,088
    Apr 15, 2007
    Maitland, FL
    Kentucky will still be good. They're always good. The question is, will they be good enough to satisfy the UK fanbase? In 15 seasons, Calimari took them to 7 Elite Eights, 4 Final Fours, and 1 National Championship, and that wasn't good enough.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  11. GatorPlanet

    GatorPlanet GC Hall of Fame

    9,602
    2,281
    1,088
    Apr 15, 2007
    Maitland, FL
    UK is seeing mass defections right now. Pope will have to hit the portal fast and hard to end up in the top half of the SEC next season.
    I don't know much about the guy but he seems a decent fellow. He'll stitch something together if UK ponies up the NIL dough, but I doubt it'll be a great team right out of the gate.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. ThePlayer

    ThePlayer VIP Member

    38,385
    5,199
    2,193
    Apr 3, 2007
    Is the Pope catholic? :oops:
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  13. dailydoublecat

    dailydoublecat Respected Rival

    9,135
    327
    293
    Apr 8, 2007
    Ocala, FL
    I absolutely want all of them to leave except Reed. The culture needs to be flushed and I honestly could care less if we lose tons of games if the building and healing process begins.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  14. BillyBall89

    BillyBall89 GC Legend

    Mark Pope huh? Hmm interesting hire. Lets see how cat fans are responding to this and....
    upload_2024-4-12_18-23-11.png
    Oh lawd. Hang in there guys. If you can win a Natty after Billy Gillespie Im sure Mark Pope can't do anything that bad.
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  15. BillyBall89

    BillyBall89 GC Legend

    This 100% reeks of being of a similar vein as LSU Ed O/Tom Herman wherein LSU obviously made a panic and even a revenge hire when Tom Herman was yanked out from under them by Texas.
     
  16. UFDelt1

    UFDelt1 VIP Member

    1,076
    313
    1,873
    Apr 3, 2007
    One big difference is an alumnus of UF will be extremely well educated. It is very hard to get into UF & the university is very selective as it can be based on the pool of applicants.

    UK on the other hand accepts literally 95% of its applicants, where the bar is essentially whether you are smart enough to properly fill out the application. Limiting options to only those who graduated from UK leaves one with the shallowest of pool of talent to choose from…
     
  17. proudgator1973

    proudgator1973 VIP Member

    People are underwhelmed by his record but his team was expected to finish at the bottom of the Big 12 and he took them to within one game of finishing 3rd in that league. On the otherhand, his team couldn't beat the teams they were expected to trounce but pulled off some big wins on the road at places like Kansas which are very tough. His teams do play with pace and throw up lots of 3 pointers. He is an alum and supposedly Kentucky is the only place he would go if her were to leave BYU.
     
  18. ApexNC

    ApexNC GC Hall of Fame

    13,448
    16,257
    3,173
    Apr 8, 2007
    NC
    I'm probably in the minority, but I think this guy can be very successful at UK if (and that's a big IF) the fans give him a chance. It will be fascinating to watch.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  19. tc7

    tc7 Freshman

    20
    4
    1,743
    May 5, 2015
    Would Hubert Davis gotten the north Carolina job if he wasn't a Tarheel?
     
  20. AzCatFan

    AzCatFan GC Hall of Fame

    12,197
    1,157
    1,618
    Apr 9, 2007
    Davis was the heir apparent for the UNC job, and was first assistant to Roy Williams for years before taking over. While Davis had no head coaching experience before taking over, there are examples of a blue blood hiring away another school's heir apparent. Three years ago, Arizona hire Tommy Lloyd, Mark Few's heir at Gonzaga, even though Lloyd had zero head coaching experience. And years before that, Kansas hired the aforementioned Roy Williams from UNC before he had head coaching experience. So to answer the question, being an alum didn't hurt, but Davis was qualified, and would've been hired even if he wasn't.
     
    • Like Like x 1