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IS THIS THE NORM FOR NIL?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by doctorg8r, Jan 10, 2024.

  1. gatordavisl

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    The quality of play in the pro leagues is quite good, the quality of the product . . . not so much. It's no longer about selling tickets to the fans, it's about selling advertisement on television. It's no longer about sticking with a team/city for the players, it's about following the $. The game, whether NFL, NBA, or NCAA football, is less organic. So no, I do not agree that people critical of what's happening in cfb lack vision.
     
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  2. CHFG8R

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    Hate to break this to you, but it's always been that way. The reason the NFL is the richest league in the world (by a large margin), is because it's perfect for TV and was structured early (revenue sharing and prostituting colleges for free minor league) to take full advantage of that.
     
  3. archigator_96

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    I don't think collective donations should be tax deductible. It's not going to a non-profit organization like a church or a school/university. Or something like St Judes Hospital. It is going directly to a person (student) who doesn't have non profit status. Therefore, the money given to a collective is not deductible and tax has already been paid. It ends there until it's given to the student. Unless the collective is taking some of that money to run it's organization and paying administration costs.
     
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  4. gatordavisl

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    Perhaps the TV aspect has been that way, but the quality of the game experience has changed imo. Just look at how TV has altered the clock rules in NFL and NCAA. Maybe I'm guilty of pining for the "old days," but I consider modern football to be vastly inferior to what fans experienced decades ago. Ever been to a Monday night marquee game in the Orange Bowl? Compare that with the current Dolphin game experience. I'm sure the seats are nicer and the concessions are shinier, etc. but there are reasons that stadiums look like . . .

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    Who knows . . . maybe this was a preseason game. I imagine that ticket sales have not dropped over the years, but a) population increase and b) numbers are now based on sales, not attendance. At any rate, attendance is only one symptom of what I consider a declining product.
    As for college sports, our teams now resemble the Calipari-era Kentucky basketball teams, where you hardly know the players. It's a whole new group every year.
     
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  5. CHFG8R

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    I would attribute this lack of atmosphere - almost exclusively - to smart phones. When you went to games in the 90s and even 2000s, the focus of 99.99% of the stadium was on the game and only on the game. Very little if any pipped in music, all chants led by band, etc. and everyone participating. Also, just better TV's and viewing experience at home.

    I remember when MNF was "a thing", almost like a 3rd weekend night. Every bar had specials and people went out for MNF. Now, it's just another game and SNF (people want to stay home and watch) has taken its place ratings wise.
     
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  6. terminator3

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    I agree with the cap but it would be not be enforced or followed.
     
  7. grant1

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    I get taxed every pay day, why shouldn't they be taxed
     
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  9. antny1

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    Has it affected soccer fans and their experience as well? Hockey? NBA?

    Just curious rhetoricals. I don't know myself but it at least seems like football has been affected the most whether it be rule changes, smartphones, TV network involvement, home experience etc etc
     
  10. 96Gatorcise

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    The window is open for 30 days after the regular season and 15 days after spring practice. How much more do you want it shortened? It does have to have enough room to allow a player to see who is interested and also accommodate different semester schedules.
     
  11. CHFG8R

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    Not as much. One of the reasons I've become a huge Premier League fan (Tottenham). It reminds me of what college football used to be like in addition to being its own unique thing. Something about an entire stadium just singing along organically. . . . Hockey is also a great experience live and I have hope for baseball with the pitch clock. Really amazed at how well that went off.
     
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  12. antny1

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    That's interesting to me and warrants a little more investigating into why football seems to be different despite being subjected to many of the same external factors other sports are.
     
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    Or the ones who can't go pro can Actually Get an Education for free and earn a living not playing football. Oh the horror.
     
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  14. gator7_5

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    NIL should be paid back upon portal transfer. Spent it already? Get a loan from the new school.
     
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  15. 96Gatorcise

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    Why? The season is over and most deals are written for the length of the season then renewed.
    My NIL guy has told me deals at his school get cancelled when a player portal or graduates..
     
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  16. CHFG8R

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    IDK. But we get the full PL package every weekend. I was bored with pre-game shows that just tell me stuff I already know then realized NBC had the full package (2-3 games every Saturday and Sunday morning) and started watching. Then decided to pick a team and jump in. I love it. Especially the complete absence of commercials. Incredibly gripping when you have skin in the game.
     
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  18. paidinfull

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    These aren’t non profits, they’re nfpo’s. Ours is at least. They don’t have to be for some social cause like a hospital or church. Donations made to an nfpo are not tax deductible.
     
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    A lot of the bigger deals are made outside of collectives. These numbers really don’t mean much.
     
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  20. g8wayg8r

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    How about on graduation or after four years, which ever comes first. All of it needs auditing for money laundering, etc.
     
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