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Is it Dementia or Just Lying?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator_jo, Feb 9, 2025 at 12:45 AM.

  1. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    you're not wrong.
     
  2. GatorTheo

    GatorTheo GC Legend

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    I appreciate the desire to have a more thoughtful level of discussion. That's not what I'm used to on messageboards. I'll pay more attention.
     
  3. citygator

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    I am sorry that pointing out the ridiculousness of your President is getting to you. It will be a long 4 years for you. I bet you abandon this place in about 60 days due to reality being shown to you.
     
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  4. gator_jo

    gator_jo GC Hall of Fame

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    But again.. ....you're wrong.

    Biden didn't run for POTUS on a platform of racist lies; "They're eating the dogs!" "They're not like you!"

    Biden didn't enact a criminal conspiracy to overturn an election, commit felonies, or incite an attack on our Capitol ...... ... and compel his political party to repeat his lies.

    So, again; You are wrong. They don't all do the same things. They're not all the same. It's not "both sides."

    Some would say your repeated assertion otherwise is also dishonest.
     
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  5. gator_jo

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    He's 100% wrong.

    And he'll only be correct about "both sides do it" when someone besides Trump insists on party-line lying about their un-American crimes.

    Or runs a campaign of racist lies.

    So until then, he's just shilling for a liar. Something you shouldn't approve of.
     
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  6. coleg

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    When he lies why would you excuse or defend him? Certainly you read the posts calling out Biden's stories that were at the least... embellished. I winced when he did it, but didn't excuse it since as Pres. we deserve better.
     
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  7. GatorTheo

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    Bring it on. I have no concern over what you or any other poster chooses to say. I've been on messageboards since Al Gore invented the internet. You will not offend me.
     
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  8. CHFG8R

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    Waa. Criticism.

    So sad.

    For supposed tough guys, you MAGA boys sure are soft.
     
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  9. GatorTheo

    GatorTheo GC Legend

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    Did I really defend him or did I simply point out that America found him more acceptable that what the democrats had to offer?
     
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  10. CHFG8R

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    Based on his meandering attempt at an answer, I'd say it's a definitive "yes" on this one. At least when it comes to "his boy".
     
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  11. orangeblue_coop

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    Trump zealots quickly ran in here to deflect to Biden, liberals, Democrats etc. They can never just simply admit that dude is a lying scumbag and leave it at that lol
     
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  12. CHFG8R

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    You guys all say this, but you had better choices in the primary, choices that would have won by a larger margin and ultimately given you more of what you want (assuming you're a conservative or want a conservative POTUS). And everyone of you KNOW there were better R candidates.

    But no. You chickened out and knuckled under to these morons and clowns and let them run roughshod over the party and our country. Idiots in charge while DeSantis and Haley (and others) sit on the bench. I'll never forgive you SOB's for this. Especially if, as many of us suspect, things go south under this clowncar of an administration.
     
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  13. CHFG8R

    CHFG8R GC Hall of Fame

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    Or even clarify the position. BLING did it better than any of them. That Trump would say this isn't surprising but it is weird that Tubberville is trying to take credit for or claim adjacency to Mahomes.
     
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  14. homer

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    Start a “water is wet” thread. That would be the equivalent. lol
     
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  15. jjgator55

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    I think there was a time when Trump lied intentionally like all politicians do to protect himself, but now he actually believes those lies to be true. A condition known as pseudologia fantastica. He’s not lying to prevent an uncomfortable consequence of his actions, but because it gives him warm fuzzies inside. Examples are the falsification of business records about a hush money payoff to Stormy Daniels, illegally possessing classified documents after leaving the White House and concealing them from investigators, to his attempts at reverse his election loss to Biden in Georgia. How that affects us is he’s easily being manipulated.

    So IMHO Trump isn’t as much of a problem as those who surround him, and influence him are.
     
  16. vaxcardinal

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    yea, I especially like the one where his uncle was eaten by cannibals
     
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  17. gator_jo

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    Trump is a vile piece of *something* who ran a Presidential campaign based on racist lies. And who calls traitors who attacked our country, for his benefit, "hostages."

    You tried to establish false equivalence to justify his vile lying. In order to support him through, well, your dishonest false comparison.

    Jeez, it's 8 years too late but people need to finally just be direct and honest enough to tell people like you "lie or spread misinformation somewhere else, please. "

    Imagine where we'd be if Republicans had done that.
     
  18. gator_jo

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    Yeah, that was silly. A silly untrue (i guess) thing to say.

    Nowhere near as bad as lying about violent criminal traitors who attacked out country. Calling them hostages.

    Which one did YOU vote for, by the way? The traitor?

    So take your dishonest false equivalence elsewhere, please.
     
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  19. homer

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    George told Jerry it’s not a lie if you believe it’s true. Or something similar.
     
  20. thomadm

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    Trump wants so bad to be liked and admired. Ironically his appeal might have been tied to the constant barrage of attacks. Now that he isn't getting that, he's making stupid statements to make headlines and to get noticed. It's going to get worse after next year (midterms) as he enters lame duck status.