Iron Dome! Hell yeah!!

Watching "conservatives" cheer this on is so embarrassing

 

M@rketing matters. Hey, pubs lets embrace leftist America First polices.

 

Sure. Better than what we currently have, bc what we have now is pure crap. Kick Doh! Biden (and his Chicom puppeteers) to the curb, and maybe we can get a solid long term fix, not some shitty bandaid calculated to salvage Doh!'s failed presidency.

 

Nice break down.

I suspect it might make you as nauseous as it makes me... but I actually agree with you (except the jab at the GOP--as a matter of Ltd. selection).

 

Is Trump really talking about a missile defense system? I didn't listen to his speech. (I have many faults but I'm not a masochist.) But in Genesis the Earth is flat, and the "firmament" above it is a solid dome. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Trump thinks the Earth is flat. But I'd be surprised too if he wants to build an iron dome to protect the whole Earth, unless he wants Mexico and every other country to pay for it.

 

post #27 is the transcript.

 

Ain't no body looking to engage the US in a volley of missiles.

TBL: our own debt and reckless spending is FAAAAAAARRRR greater a threat, than whatever Martian boogeyman we might could maaaayyybbee... stave off with this Uber spendy big gov wet dream. Hard pass.

The good news is that this pipe dream will never get past the campaign stump. Just blustering campaign fodder.

 

Thanks. The biblical firmament or dome is in Genesis 1:6-8. And I've seen Trump hold up a Bible!

 

So you think he is proposing just buying the Israeli system? You need to go sit and exchange notes with PITBOSS. The Israeli system would useless in the US, and as you said quite expensive. The threats they are defending against are short-mid range. Other than missiles launched from undetected submarines, there are no platforms nor locations to place them for firing short range missiles at the US. And so you know, our military brass are asking for and developing the capability of an integrated, tiered, multi layered air and missile defense capability. We currently have some really good capabilities to defend, but they were developed to defend battle areas, not the entire country. Integrating the capabilities of what we currently have, while supplementing higher capability for icbms, and large numbers of smaller, cheaper interceptors for drones and the munitions they carry is the forward path.

You did a lot of referencing and arithmetic all on a bad premise.

 

Elements of this are already in development. Reagan’s Star Wars was not feasible with 1980’s and 90’s technology. Much more feasible today.

 

And yet, I'm confident that more thought went into my post than Trump's statement...

The whole point of my post was to highlight the folly of the idea.

 

We were in the throws of the nuclear arms race in the 80's, in a global pissing contest with USSR, both nations building nukes like there was a prize for the one with the most toys. Star Wars missle defense initiative (IIRC) was a novel twist in that dynamic, intended to render the Soviets' missiles harmless.

There is simply no such dynamic in place today. Terrorism, criminal violence, corruption, sex trafficking, gangs, drug trafficking, debt spending like drunken sailors... these--ALL from withinn (or seep in on or beloe our terrestial surface)--pose much greater threats to our nation, than some mythical extraterrestrial boogeyman threat from beyond the atmosphere, or even from within the stratosphere.

 

2 weeks

 

I think that you are conflating my comments on the technical aspect with blanket support for the initiative. I do not per se support. I fully support Integrating the different weapons that we have. We also need a more cost effective way to kill drone. There were systems developed in the 70’s and 80’s to fry infrared sensor electronics as part of an air defense strategy. These systems were all scrapped by the early 90’s for humanitarian reasons and a diminished Soviet threat. Something along the lines of that on drones and ground stations could be very effective at destroying drones at long distances prior to launch. Air defense does not per se mean firing a projectile. Directed energy has a big future here as projectiles are very expensive

 

Don’t be ridiculous, he wouldn’t propose coving all of the US. Just the red states.

 

Agreed. Iron Dome only intercepts short to intermediate range missiles. It is not very effective at intercepting ICBMs and zero effective against hypersonic missiles.

 

I'm worried about the Democrats' DOME right now. (Doddering Old Man, Exit!)

 

Don’t worry, there is little doubt about the ineffectiveness of that DOME!