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Iran Threatens the U.S. with "Consequences" for Israel Support

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by chemgator, Nov 29, 2023.

  1. slayerxing

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    Let me guess, dugger is ranting about how somehow Iran would defeat the us military…
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    Hiding but still chattering.
     
  3. 92gator

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    ...and bigger countries that like to invade smaller countries, and poly's who like sending other ppl's kids to die....
     
  4. duggers_dad

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    Sounds like …
     
  5. citygator

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    Dumb even for you. Iran is prepared for ground artillery and tank battles with neighbors over acres of sand … 1947 called and wants its tactics back. They have zero answer for a modern battle from the air against an opponent 7,000 miles away with a mobile strike force that outpowers them by 1,000Xs. Wake up from your dream and apologize to your awake self. Ridiculous.
     
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  6. duggers_dad

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    LOL, we haven’t won a war since WWII. Except maybe Grenada. And even that one was touch and go.

    You’re a bad American precisely because you don’t expect better of her and expect her to learn from her hard lessons.

    Beaten by rice patty farmers to goat-herders …

    Why We Lost in Iraq and Afghanistan, by Daniel Bolger
     
  7. citygator

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    Winning a war isn’t the object. Destroying a nation and blowing stuff up is the goal. See Iraq, Afghanistan and anyone else in the war machine gaze of the US. The fact those places aren’t democracies is beside the point.
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    Oh, we know how to destroy countries. We can do that much …

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  9. citygator

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    Yep. We are good at it.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    Pure ignorance, once again. The U.S. has not lost a war since WWII, with the exception of Vietnam. North Korea was (and is) a tie. We have won every other war with a uniformed enemy since WWII. We have not always won the peace, meaning that partisans have taken advantage of the American unwillingness to harm civilians to attack the U.S. forces as terrorists. But no uniformed military has stood up to a determined attack by the U.S. in the last 45 years. Not every war has been as decisive as the 1991 War in Iraq, with 150 U.S. soldiers killed vs. about 100,000 Iraqi troops, and 1 U.S. tank possibly destroyed vs 3300 Iraqi (Russian) tanks, but they were always decisive during the actual war phase.

    You are a bad American because you expect us to surrender at the drop of a hat, abandoning principles and allies alike. Probably convenient, as you seem to have no principles. Is that correct, Lil' Neville?
     
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  12. slayerxing

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    The guy is clearly either out of his mind or has an agenda. It’s not even worth engaging. I’ve only blocked one person in many many years on this board. And it was worth it. Just clogs up boards with horse shit.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    Yahoos fight with memes. Unfortunately, real people die for them …

    Why Neville Chamberlain Was Right
     
  14. duggers_dad

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    He’s so brave!
     
  15. chemgator

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    Again, how does a highly-trained and energetic military shoot down something that they don't even know is there until the bomb explodes and the plane is long gone? No one has been able to reliably detect and target the F-35. Especially at night, it is virtually invisible. We saw how Iraq did against aircraft that it couldn't detect on radar. Iraq ate a huge number of extremely accurate bombs while shooting weapons blindly into the sky. What do you think Iran is going to do, shoot all their missiles blindly into the sky, and hope one of them randomly hits a tiny invisible target speeding through the sky at an unknown altitude? The damage to their own people from the falling missiles would be devastating. Or are they going to send up some F-14's that have not been used in 40 years to take on the F-35's?
     
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  16. chemgator

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    Crappy article. It assumes that the only two options were to sign the Munich Agreement (giving Germany a green light to invade other countries), or to declare war on Germany. That was obviously not the case. Being blind to the possibility that Hitler, who rose to power through lies and thuggery, might be lying was obviously an astounding mistake.

    And no, the terms of the WWI peace agreement were not especially onerous to Germany. It is a complete myth that the WWI agreements were a cause for WWII, other than as a psychological insult on a proud nation. Their economy (GDP) had fully recovered by 1929. The worldwide Great Depression was what had caused economic problems for Germany, not the WWI agreements. Germany had stopped making payments to France and England before 1930, but France and England had stopped asking for payments as well. The debt was virtually forgiven. Any writer ignorant to those details cannot be trusted to write an accurate and reasonable article about WWII Germany.
     
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    You forgot Russia. And the cold war. :cool:
     
  18. duggers_dad

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    Well, if Trump says the F-35 is invisible …

    Trump Keeps Saying the F-35 Is Invisible

    Update: Iran has Su-35’s now. But the days of dogfighting are over. Russia is extra cautious about flying over areas in Ukraine with Soviet-area anti-aircraft missiles. And Iran has state-of-the-art missiles. Probably much superior to our Patriots.
     
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    It's not saying that much to say that Iran has better missiles than the Patriots. So do we. The Patriots just happen to be the 40-year-old missile that we are willing to share with Ukraine. But Iran still needs to be able to detect and target the F-35 before its "excellent" missiles can damage it. So far, no one has been able to successfully target the F-35. If you would apply the lump between your ears to the situation, you would realize that a plane has to be identified and targeted BEFORE it can be shot down. It is foolish to assume that the Iranian missile would know how to aim itself and find a target that it can't detect.