Iran launches retaliatory missile strikes into Israel

You defeat them the same way Al Queda, ISIS and Hamas were defeated. You are aware that Iranians and Syrians celebrated Nasrallah’s death don’t you? And that those who did celebrate are praising Netanyahu? You do know that Hezbollah—has fired 8000 rockets into Israel before Israel escalated recently. Th first rocket was fired October 8. What do you think the US would do if a terrorist group in Mexico that established a de facto government there started firing rockets into border states? Do you think the US would wait a year while they kept firing before taking out their leadership? As for Hams, have you noticed how few rockets are being fired from Gaza? Hamas has been reduced in size and scope and is a guerilla force. And in time now, hopefully Hezbollah will be so weak that the regular Lebanese Army can take their country back. Right before your eyes, with little US offensive involvement, Israel is weakening Iran. The US should thank Israel. Hezbollah has American blood on its hands and propped up Assad in Syria.

 

Netanyahu knows that a large segment of the Iranian population opposes the government there. Weaken the IRG and help the people rise up.

 

I know Israel didn't defeat the PLO. That's the point. What's the difference between the PLO of yesterday and Hamas today besides some letters? The fight against Hamas is the same battle Israel has been fighting for generations. What's changed today that would provide for the possibility of total victory?

As for the rocket attacks, it's an unfortunate reality of living in Israel. It's more of a nuisance than a danger. But now, Iran is more involved and the stakes have been raised. And you have to ask, what's Israel's end game?

 

Oh really? When were any of those entities defeated militarily? About a year ago you were saying Hamas needed to formally surrender for this to be over, which hasnt happened, now you are saying they are defeated, all while the IDF is still operating in Gaza. We had a thread only a few months ago about the US taking action against ISIS, but now they are defeated too.

 

Because as @duchen pointed out, the Israelis were always pulled up short by the US, the West, and the UN and promised that a cease fire would lead to a peace deal. Before Oct 7th, everyone in Israel knew that was a lie but they thought they could live with it. Oct 7th showed they could no longer do that. The gloves have come off and Israel is not going to be pull up short by anyone this time around.

So it is OK for Hezbollah to shoot rockets at Israel and if a couple of them get through the Iron Dome, that is just too bad? Not to mention the cost of maintaining and re-arming the Iron Dome? At what point do we stop holding the only side that wants a peace deal responsible for their enemies constantly attacking them?

 

Underscoring your point, Hezbollah has fired rockets into Israel EVERY DAY since October 8th. Israelis have evacuated their homes in Northern Israel since October 8.

 

Forget the US. Russia, China. . . any country on earth would react the same way or harsher.

 

Almost any country on earth beyond the ones you mentioned isn't an imperial power or an ongoing colonial project intent on creating buffer zones for settlers in their ethno-state(s). People never seem to wonder why things happen, it only matters that they do.

 

Israel is such an imperial power!!!! Just look at the mass of territory all across the globe that it has conquered.

 

Political semantics nobody cares about when missiles are dropping from the skies. We could go all day here. How is it that the former minority now runs South Africa? How did the Indians throw off the British yoke? How were AA's able to end Jim Crow?

Hint: It wasn't because they sought the LCD of violence and horror in their attempts to protest. Oh, and think of all the settlements that wouldn't have been built if they had taken that deal Bush I came up with in the 90s.

 

Yep, as has been stated if someone was lobbing missiles onto US territory from Mexico e.g., they would have been erased poste haste.

 

My advice is to just laugh at that poster and move on. Literally won't admit they are wrong on anything they've said. Just a bot. Tried numerous times to engage said poster and gave up when they wouldn't admit obvious things they were wrong about.

 

But, again, that was all part of HAMAS plan. Arguably, it was the key to their plan. So much so that they were already railing on Israel for its "retaliation" before said retaliation ever started. I know, I was literally watching AlJazeera that night and they were already rolling out that narrative before a single bomb had been dropped.

 

Did the US, the West, and UN also stop the Brits against their battles against the Irish Republican Army? Or did the fighting go on for decades until a peace agreement was finally reached? What's the Brit's excuse?

And when has the UN, US, or the West actually stopped Israel from doing what it wants to do? Give some examples, please.

The unfortunate reality is groups like Hamas, or the IRA are more of an idea and ideals, than an organized military group. And they live because there is a supportive, sympathetic, local population where terrorists can hide among and recruit new members. They are cancers, and leave just one cell alive, they will regrow, no matter how much you get. And with the ability to blend into the local populace, it's nearly impossible to cut out the entire terrorist group.

As for the Hezbollah rockets, it's wash, rinse, repeat. Same with Hamas, which is the PLO 2.0. Same battle, same fight, same outcome in the end.

 

So I guess you just stopped reading and missed this part:

 

You’ve made it crystal clear you despise Israel. But try and use some semblance of an argument that’s not straight out of the Qatarian School of Bizzaro-World and Middle Eastern History.

 

I don't recall the IRA's goal being to take over England and push all the English into the Channel.

'06 (Lebanon), '14 (Gaza), attempting it '24, and a lot of other times that the US asked Israel to hold off on operations.
2006 Lebanon War - Wikipedia
How Israel got American weapons behind Obama's back
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/magazine/iran-strike-israel-america.html

When was the last time the UK had an issue with the IRA? The IRA is an example of what can actually happen when the other side also wants peace and is willing to bargain in good faith.

 

I just hope Israel does the truly needful and decapitates the Iranian regime. Otherwise, we'll be having this same discussion 5 years from now.

side note: Iran likely trying to have Trump killed because they know Trump will green light regime change efforts in Tehran by way of severe economic sanctions and expressing public support for Israel's efforts to do so. Trump can maneuver the PR battle, which is Iran's worst nightmare.

 

I don't recall the PLO or Hamas having the ability to take over Israel. What have the anti-Israel groups ever won? Nothing.

Meanwhile, Israel has been asked by the UN to hold off, but when have they listened? Did they listen when Israel razed the West Bank and put in settlements? Gaza? Golan Heights?

The point remains. It is extremely difficult to defeat a terrorist organization that is embedded within the local civilian population. The Brits couldn't do it. Israel has yet to accomplish it. You think there is some sort of magic with extra resolve that exists today that didn't exist in all the years prior? By the way, the UN just recently passed a resolution again against Israel. Is this going to be the next excuse when Israel doesn't achieve a complete victory this time?